Bob Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I was shouting at the tele when I saw the position he took before the free kick. If he had been in the center of the goal he would have had a chance, shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexpistol Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I thought Dawson had a good game, he made a great save first half. As for the first goal, the defence were more to blame than him. The second goal, I thought his positioning on the line was wrong. If he had been more central he saves that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 For all the people saying he should have stood central, that's just not what you to defend a free kick. You cover the side that the wall is not covering. You trust that if he shoots that side, the wall makes the stop or he blasts it over. If you stand in the middle, you leave BOTH corners open, which includes the one on the unprotected side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexpistol Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: For all the people saying he should have stood central, that's just not what you to defend a free kick. You cover the side that the wall is not covering. You trust that if he shoots that side, the wall makes the stop or he blasts it over. If you stand in the middle, you leave BOTH corners open, which includes the one on the unprotected side. That rule only really applies if the kick is to one side. If he is stood central. It makes the kickers decision more difficult to which side he aims it. The player most likely saw Dawson’s position and made his decision based on that. If he is central he saves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Claw Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 a keeper that doesn't know where the box stops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheOwl Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Should have saved the 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Ian said: Westwood saves neither of them because he “hurt his knee” in the warm up just prior to a game away at top of the league free scoring Norwich.....just like he was “tired” just prior to the game away at top of the league West Brom and just like he “felt sick in the warm up” away at Bristol City a few seasons ago after being unsettled by theor 2 big centre halves Good though he is, strange how these things never happen at home to the likes of Bolton Possibly the worst theory/comment I’ve ever read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 First goal definitely Hutchinsons fault jumped sideways with his eyes shut should attacked the shot and tried to block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avon barksdale Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Ian said: Westwood saves neither of them because he “hurt his knee” in the warm up just prior to a game away at top of the league free scoring Norwich.....just like he was “tired” just prior to the game away at top of the league West Brom and just like he “felt sick in the warm up” away at Bristol City a few seasons ago after being unsettled by theor 2 big centre halves Good though he is, strange how these things never happen at home to the likes of Bolton Complete slander, he’s out of contract do you think he’d pass up an opportunity to put himself in the shop window to any would be suitors to try and secure him and his families future. Very bizarre comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Wildsmith should feel really hard done too. He was a very capable back up for Carlos for around 3 seasons. I still do not know why Jos made Dawson number 1 over both Wildsmith and Westwood because they are both clearly better goalkeepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 hours ago, kendoddsdadsdogsdead said: JOC , got to agree with you. However, their first goal looks worse everytime you see it, due to Dawson's lateness in getting down to it. He is a decent young keeper, but the observations made by many are spot on, the defence is better with Westwood behind them. It should be obvious that his view was blocked with Wednesday players infront of him, and couldn't see the ball before too late... Our defending for that goal was shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Mills Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, pazowl55 said: 3 hours ago, Pale Rider said: The back four all had good games, with no help from Dawson who seems to have his boots glued to the goal line. Except when he runs out of the box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Has to save the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, pazowl55 said: Dont think now is the time to knock Dawson. he had 20 mins to prepare for the game and one of the best keepers boots in the division to fill. What worries me more is the fact the defence seem less confident when he is in the net. However that did get better as the game went on. Will be our long term number one Dawson. Mark my words. They’re less confident because he doesn’t dominate or command his area or marshall them in the same way Westwood does. I still think Wildsmith played better for us last season than Dawson has this season. Edited April 20, 2019 by Great Big Galaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, sexpistol said: That rule only really applies if the kick is to one side. If he is stood central. It makes the kickers decision more difficult to which side he aims it. The player most likely saw Dawson’s position and made his decision based on that. If he is central he saves it. If he stands centrally he has no line of sight to the ball. His positioning wasn’t actually that bad, it was more a footwork issue IMO. Too simplistic just to tell him to stand further over. First goal was really poor though. Should be doing much better with that. I also saw a number of crosses go across the six yard box that I’d be looking for a competent Championship keeper to take control of. Finally, I’m not even convinced he should have been on the pitch after the handball...surely a red card offence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Great Big Galaa said: They’re less confident because he doesn’t dominate or command his area or marshall them in the same way Westwood does. I still think Wildsmith played better for us last season than Dawson has this season. Wildsmith who defends his box like a table football keeper and dropped clanger after clanger last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Wildsmith who defends his box like a table football keeper and dropped clanger after clanger last season? I don’t remember our defence as all over the place last season when Wildsmith was in goal like we were in the first half of this season but hey your memories probably better than mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Ian said: and just like he “felt sick in the warm up” away at Bristol City a few seasons ago after being unsettled by theor 2 big centre halves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: I don’t remember our defence as all over the place last season when Wildsmith was in goal like we were in the first half of this season but hey your memories probably better than mine? Thats mainly because we barely left our half last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 People tend to overlook several very important factors. 1 The difference in age/experience of the two players 2. The apparent reliance of the defence almost entirely on the GK, which should more often be the other way. 3. If a defender makes a mistake, and allowing their player to have a shot at goal IS a mistake, he often has cover. The GK has no such cover. His mistakes are fatal. As for the idea of 'sending out on loan to gain experience' is shot full of holes. Is there a Championship or HIGHER club who would be willing toplay a loan GK before their regular Keeper? I very much doubt it, and any experience in lower divisions is immaterial to any position.The Championship is played at a much higher level than L1, as we are finding out. If, and when, Westwood goes, as even he cannot go on for ever, whoever takes his place will make mistakes from the start. It is learning from these mistakes that shows the true worth, both of the keeper, his defenders, AND the supporters he has behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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