Blatter Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 22 hours ago, daleblue said: Both can go for me, Joa, lots of potential, never seems to get there, Forestieri, has never regained what he did for us in his first Season. Slowly coming to that conclusion too. Probably £8million for the pair if we’re lucky. Then Abdi Jones Pudil Matias off the wage bill for starters. Probably followed by somehow releasing JVA. from his contract. Then big decisions to be made about Lee and Hooper fitness/ contract renewal. Might Just quieten EFL But won’t do much more than reduce the losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Getting rid of players like Joao, Forestieri and Reach, may end up being a necessity, but unless the money is used to bring better, then we are likely to slip further behind. The way we should do it maybe, is to replace those players with loans. We couldn’t buy better for less, but it may be possible to borrow Make no mistake though, it means we have to be dealing at the top end of the loan market, Abraham, Gayle, Wilson, Mount etc If we are left with the likes of Fletcher, Nuhiu, Winnall, and the hapless Rhodes, we will surely struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Beholder said: I think João is a player more suited to the prem. Although alot of teams adopt the high press these days and he isn't really that kind of player. He has a top level skill set though. Defo worth 8 million in my opinion. Whether that be from here or abroad. Morning Dejphon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Blatter said: Slowly coming to that conclusion too. Probably £8million for the pair if we’re lucky. Then Abdi Jones Pudil Matias off the wage bill for starters. Probably followed by somehow releasing JVA. from his contract. Then big decisions to be made about Lee and Hooper fitness/ contract renewal. Might Just quieten EFL But won’t do much more than reduce the losses. Add to that list, Jordan Rhodes, his wages must be high, Bruce has got a lot of work to do this Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Anyone who would rather keep Rhodes or Winnall than Joao is off their rocker!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 If we get offered £8m for ANY of our players we should take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, sweetsheri said: If we get offered £8m for ANY of our players we should take it. That will likely be the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Anyone who would rather keep Rhodes or Winnall than Joao is off their rocker!! Agree. All three should be on their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Plonk said: Agree. All three should be on their way. You could say that about everyone of our strikers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarn owl Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 We need to sell someone and if we can gain enough money from Joao to be able to keep Reach and Bannan then i am happy with that. Reason being that Bannan and Reach i think are more integral to 46 games a season compared to Joao. Plus we have so many strikers. I like Joao, but out of our 3 saleable assets i think Joao is more able to go rather than Bannan or Reach. We need more bodies in defence and midfield and i think that showed yesterday when we get people injured our strength in depth is poor in midfield and defence compared to other clubs which i think cost us the game. we need more options elsewhere than up front. Joao is good, but he can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, tarn owl said: We need to sell someone and if we can gain enough money from Joao to be able to keep Reach and Bannan then i am happy with that. Reason being that Bannan and Reach i think are more integral to 46 games a season compared to Joao. Plus we have so many strikers. I like Joao, but out of our 3 saleable assets i think Joao is more able to go rather than Bannan or Reach. We need more bodies in defence and midfield and i think that showed yesterday when we get people injured our strength in depth is poor in midfield and defence compared to other clubs which i think cost us the game. we need more options elsewhere than up front. Joao is good, but he can go. I agree with that reasoning, but what’s the point in keeping Reach and Bannan, if you’ve got Fletcher, Nuhiu or Winnall up front. This is the extent of the job Bruce faces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarn owl Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: I agree with that reasoning, but what’s the point in keeping Reach and Bannan, if you’ve got Fletcher, Nuhiu or Winnall up front. This is the extent of the job Bruce faces If you get the right offer for all of them then that's great and all could go. But Bannan and Reach could still be part of a very good wednesday team. So if FFP means we need to move some on and not all then Joao would be my first choice as i think we don't need to replace him. But with Bannan and Reach if we sell them, we need to replace them as we have no one else. Yes we may need to sell all of them and play the kids if FFP is really bad. But if we can keep people, then midfielders are important as we are very weak in this area of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 12 hours ago, Ronio said: One question I would ask, do we have 100% ownership of the player's contract? When we bought him we bought him outright, part of the fee went to his club & part to a 3rd party, probably Doyen. We had to do this because 3rd party ownership isn't allowed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) I can't believe some folk on here think Joao is worth 8Mill. Good old Owlstalk. Edited April 8, 2019 by owlZfan84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Happy for him to go, but I would be surprised if we got over 2-3M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhancock Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Surely if anyone should go it should be Nuhiu, not that we would get much for him. The bigger question is who will we replace Joao with as with our financial situation we will not be able to buy anyone decent so it looks like we will be stuck with Fletcher, Rhodes Nuhiu & Hooper and possibly Forestieri for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 hours ago, mogbad said: When we bought him we bought him outright, part of the fee went to his club & part to a 3rd party, probably Doyen. We had to do this because 3rd party ownership isn't allowed here. Don't confuse them with facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 9 hours ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Anyone who would rather keep Rhodes or Winnall than Joao is off their rocker!! Sell all three though...and get one that f,ookin' works? Is that not an option...? Rhodes?....hasn't worked Winnal...hasn't worked Joao..works intermittently what you got ....? about 10 mill..to buy something that WORKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Beholder said: I think João is a player more suited to the prem. Although alot of teams adopt the high press these days and he isn't really that kind of player. He has a top level skill set though. Defo worth 8 million in my opinion. Whether that be from here or abroad. He’d get eaten alive in the prem We need a shake up. Players like FF and Joao have been sat here for years on juicy contracts, giving half arsed performances 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Probably doesn’t have the right attitude and not nearly consistent enough. Another player in a long line who hasn’t/can’t fulfill his talent - not the first and won’t be the last . Can go for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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