sibon Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Article just posted on the Guardian/ Observer website. It isn’t exactly flattering https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/mar/30/football-double-jeopardy-racism-cases-fernando-forestieri?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Thought it was going to be about him watching the game pass him by today............... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibon Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: Thought it was going to be about him watching the game pass him by today............... I worked hard on that thread title 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Was just going to post something about this. Basically they say it ain’t over and the football authorities are looking to bring charges against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Doesn't surprise me. In the current climate, it was nailed on he'd be facing a potential FA charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Daniel Taylor, originally from Nottinghamshire... Hmmm... Yeah, that's not a biased article whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Tony Blair wants drop kicking into oblivion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, frastheowl said: Daniel Taylor, originally from Nottinghamshire... Hmmm... Yeah, that's not a biased article whatsoever. Hang on mate , it’s from the Guardian. You’re only allowed to say that on here if it’s the Sun or Mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Flying Owl Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 From Nottinghamshire and a Forest fan. One has to question his agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 If a criminal case has come to nothing the FA shouldn’t have any further involvement in my view. If they were to ban every player who was abusive to an opponent then I’m guessing there’d be a lot of suspensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scram Posted March 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2019 The authorities are fucking disgusting They have no evidence whatsoever and the guy has been cleared in a law court - yet the oh-so-knowledgeable (not!) authorities plough on... maybe they should concentrate a bit more on the structural problems they have caused within the game that is seeing clubs going to the wall regularly - proud old clubs like Coventry on the brink of extinction - and not allow clubs who have money to spend it based upon phoney manufactured nonsensical rules and then actually punish those clubs for having the temerity to spend their own money Absolute fucking charlatans who are not remotely fit for purpose 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 I wish nothing but failure for those mansfield knobbers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Quote Forestieri denied it and Pearce, still enraged, sent a message later that evening to a WhatsApp group comprising his two brothers and some close friends: “If anyone ever sees Forestieri swing on him immediately.” So the article even mentions the fact that Pearce incited violence against Forestieri, but somehow seems to use this fact as supportive evidence for Forestieri's likely guilt seemingly because that's how 'enraged' Pearce was. Inciting violence is presumably fine by this journalist then so long as you think someone said something offensive to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildowl Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: If a criminal case has come to nothing the FA shouldn’t have any further involvement in my view. If they were to ban every player who was abusive to an opponent then I’m guessing there’d be a lot of suspensions Agree. If FA had started an investigation then became aware of a criminal investigation they would have to stop their action. If they elect to restart their investigation surely they would also have to investigate everything that occurred with the incident leading up to the allegation - including the violent conduct of the Mansfield player(s). They can't have one law for one team and another law for another. Having said that if the FA are involved they would argue that black is white and then decide the colour is yellow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burncross owl10 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 How is this complete non event groaning on?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Shocking article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) I wouldn’t stoop so low as to wipe my Richard Harris on the Guardian ... what part of NOT GUILTY is difficult to understand Edited March 30, 2019 by Hirstys Salopettes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 I don’t think it’s the journalist pushing for further investigation; I think the journalist is firstly, saying that further investigation has already started and is secondly, questioning the “absolutely guilty” (based on notion of probability) ridiculous nature of said investigation. I think the journo is actually sticking up for Forestieri to a certain extent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 When is it racist for the FA to take this kind of action against an Argentine when British players do it every week?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Firstly, Daniel Taylor is a decent journalist and has done some excellent investigative reporting on Barry Bennell and other similar stories (including one on the whole George Hirst/Nigel Pearson/Leicester mess a few months back). He's not arguing for a ban, just stating the inconsistency of the FA's system, which they seem to make up as they go along, by comparing this case to John Terry and Sophie Jones (none of whom were convicted in court). It sounds like from the FA's 'balance of probabilities' rule Forestieri might be facing a hearing. To be honest - my view: something got the Mansfield player very upset, and considering a) his reaction, and b) that racial insults, whilst considered bad, aren't considered the absolute worst thing in Latin America/Italy the way they are in this particular time in Britain, the 'balance of probability' is he probably said something more than what he admitted in court. But, a ban would be a very troubling precedent considering that a) there were no witnesses other than the accusing player himself, b) Forestieri has denied it and has several witnesses who support him, c) there is no TV or other evidence (unlike John Terry). Seeing that Jay Rodriguez was acquitted in a similar case, and Roberto Firmino didn't have a formal charges brought, Forestieri is unlikely to be banned. Otherwise it would be incentivise more cases and claims like this where little or no evidence is presented. Better to draw a line under it now, unless the FA have somehow have more evidence than what was presented in court. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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