alanharper Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Weshallovercome said: It could be interpreted in lots of different ways, but I'm going with the judge is sure Pearce thinks he heard it, but he could have been mistaken. Or Pearce didn't understand a word of what FF said as it was in Spanish, but it was clearly abusive so he played the race card. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shezza Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: Can you imagine this idiot in court... https://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/2013/may/flitcrofts-dressing-room-speech/ “Well Krystian is a special human being, when I look into his eyes after the match I can feel the passion inside of him, I can hear his heart beating and I know I know this moment will last forever.... oh and he’s every bit as good as Forestieri and he was racially abused.... even though I was on the touch line at the time and couldn’t possibly have heard the exchange between the 2 players, I just looked into his eyes and his passion told me everything”!! «Tremendous speech» Churchill doesn’t stand a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striggy Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) We do not know what the judge said, only what Hayes and the PA reported he said, either way, think the judge took a cop out, otherwise to find FF not guilty he would have to say Pearce was lying, then it opens a new can of worms. Edited March 28, 2019 by Striggy "nobody told me there would be days like these!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, alanharper said: Or Pearce didn't understand a word of what FF said as it was in Spanish, but it was clearly abusive so he played the race card. well, yeah.....that as well, which is probably what the judge thinks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: Can you imagine this idiot in court... https://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/2013/may/flitcrofts-dressing-room-speech/ “Well Krystian is a special human being, when I look into his eyes after the match I can feel the passion inside of him, I can hear his heart beating and I know I know this moment will last forever.... oh and he’s every bit as good as Forestieri and he was racially abused.... even though I was on the touch line at the time and couldn’t possibly have heard the exchange between the 2 players, I just looked into his eyes and his passion told me everything”!! He's cut and pasted that from 50 shades of grey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, owlZfan84 said: I bet his wife wasn't happy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, alanharper said: Or Pearce didn't understand a word of what FF said as it was in Spanish, but it was clearly abusive so he played the race card. Definitely. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 The real problem is an half arsed investigation into the incident. If it had been looked into properly would not have gone to court, although others could have found themselves in trouble. There were some pretty nasty things went off at the end of the game and Mansfield Town players were mainly responsible for them and FF had obviously reacted to some rough treatment being dealt out to him by Towns team and he called a player a name and it was assumed it was racist. the fact Wednesday had a black manager and players in our team indicates it is unlikely any of our players would say something racist or it would be more than likely picked up by players. Luhukay said afterwards that there was no evidence of racist behaviour. The violent incidents which are on film were ignored and Policeman took word of one man and did not bother to try and get other side of story. A fair question to him would have been was he a football fan and who did he support. A complete waste of public funds and whole situation has done nobody any favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Vowed never to paste again, but FWIW, how many of the ex-colliers and others who worked under me can i sue for Racist Abuse, given that I was a) a gaffer, b) a man from the next county, c) frequently gave as good as I got, verbally? If your mates were NOT swwearing at you , something was wrong. It never stopped us drinking together afterwards. For all their give and take, I'm afraid this 'Racist Abuse' is simply a money racket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashamanic Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 “May have been mistaken” and “unlikely to have been mistaken” are not even mutually exclusive. a statement such as “he may have been mistaken but this is unlikely” would cover it. it seems a little odd for the judge to basically say he thinks Forestieri did it, but based on standards required (presumably reasonable doubt if this was a criminal rather than civil case), had to find him not guilty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Buxtongent said: Vowed never to paste again, but FWIW, how many of the ex-colliers and others who worked under me can i sue for Racist Abuse, given that I was a) a gaffer, b) a man from the next county, c) frequently gave as good as I got, verbally? If your mates were NOT swwearing at you , something was wrong. It never stopped us drinking together afterwards. For all their give and take, I'm afraid this 'Racist Abuse' is simply a money racket. welcome back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 "Breaking news Forestieri ordered to pay 80% of his weekly wage to Krystian Pearce for the remainder of his contract, who in turn has been offered trails at Manchester United and Barcelona, with concrete contracts offers already on the table form Tottenham and Liverpool following his rise to stardom" Andddd then he woke up. In all fairness though, racism has no place in the modern game, but these he said she said cases with little to no evidence should be dealt in private by the FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Buxtongent said: Vowed never to paste again, but FWIW, how many of the ex-colliers and others who worked under me can i sue for Racist Abuse, given that I was a) a gaffer, b) a man from the next county, c) frequently gave as good as I got, verbally? If your mates were NOT swwearing at you , something was wrong. It never stopped us drinking together afterwards. For all their give and take, I'm afraid this 'Racist Abuse' is simply a money racket. Welcome back Buxton. I for one are glad you are pasting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Weshallovercome said: It could be interpreted in lots of different ways, but I'm going with the judge is sure Pearce thinks he heard it, but he could have been mistaken. 1 hour ago, alanharper said: Or Pearce didn't understand a word of what FF said as it was in Spanish, but it was clearly abusive so he played the race card. 54 minutes ago, Weshallovercome said: well, yeah.....that as well, which is probably what the judge thinks too. It could be interpreted those ways. But since they'd involve Pearce being mistaken, it would be weird to interpret the judge saying 'it's unlikely Pearce is mistaken' as meaning he was mistaken. Unless the judge is mistaken. Or the reporting is mistaken. Either way, to me it reads like the judge has had a little dig at FF by basically saying he believes the offending word was said, but he can't rule it as proved beyond reasonable doubt ('can't be satisfied to a criminal standard' and 'not met the burden of proof'). He's cleared FF, but also left it hanging over him by what he's said which seems a bit poor for a judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Theboylangers said: Welcome back Buxton. I for one are glad you are pasting again. Same here but he never gets the wallpaper straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I've not seen this story mentioned on sky sports news today, they were all over story a few weeks ago when it first came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Yes ff might still have said it or he might not have but a judge or jury cant find someone guilty without any proper evidence so it was a total waste of time from the start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) Theres as much chance of Pearce being a liar as Forestieri being racist isn't there? Its an easy accusation to make ..The force and condemnation it carries. Its a can of worms really..cos if I call pearce a liar...Is it because I'm a racist? FF was found Not guilty..so he's not guilty....The "proviso" the judge makes is a decision in itself ..and shouldn't really be allowed should it? Edited March 28, 2019 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, Mrs Blenkinsops shed said: I bet his wife wasn't happy He'll be back in court again soon and we can do this all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, bradowl said: I've not seen this story mentioned on sky sports news today, they were all over story a few weeks ago when it first came out. That's because they've spent ALL DAY talking about OGS being appointed the new Man Utd manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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