S72 Owl Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Don’t think there’s much quality in the league this season. All you need is a manager that can organise a team, players that believe in the plan and anything can happen. Look at them across the road, every time I see them play they do the exact same thing week in week out. But there organised and work hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaping Lannys Perm Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 A big part of the Championship's appeal is that it is so competitive. On the day, anyone can beat anyone which can't be said for most top European leagues. If Norwich had lost to Rotherham yesterday, and by all accounts they had a very tough time beating them, it wouldn't have been anywhere near as big a surprise as Man City losing to say Cardiff or Fulham. Having said that, it's hardly like the 3 relegated sides wee wee the top 3 the next season so it's not like the Championship is a low standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: If the championship isn't difficult, what have we been doing for the last 20 years? We did get out of it for a bit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: If the championship isn't difficult, what have we been doing for the last 20 years? F****** it up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 If we’d have had a better manager In the last 4 years we’d be up. Wilder (as much as I hate to admit it) is a good manager and that’s half the reason the snorters are flying. A decent manager would have got us up 15/16 . Unfortunately we had the opposite in Carlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hullite Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 when brucie got us up twice we used to keep pinching ourselves because we didn't look as if we were doing anything special and didn't look miles better than most of the division, just kept picking up points and keeping it rolling along this division isn't that difficult most years but this season looks a lot easier as you lot are finding, all you need is a manager who can get results from a group of decent players, sometimes in an unremarkable way but as long as nothing major happens it all seems so simple. (just watch out for the end of season brucie teams slump that we experienced 3 times, keep them holiday brochures away from him) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 12 hours ago, BRADDO said: The top teams this season aren't of the same calibre we faced in Brighton, Newcastle etc in my view. It seems a weaker league this season I'd go along with that. Start of the season it looked a strong league but for me, there is no stand out team and they wouldn't have competed against other recent promotion winning teams. We have much more to do, to seriously contemplate promotion but the bedrock players are at the club we need three or four decent signings and we can go again. Bruce needs to get them more organised and disciplined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Look how many times Warnock got promoted with exactly the same formula - Decent keeper 2 big lumps at the back Battlers in midfield Big lump up front alongside a decent scorer A pacey winger or 2 and decent full backs. Bruce's promotion formula probably isn't too different , they know how to get the right players and use them properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, hullite said: when brucie got us up twice we used to keep pinching ourselves because we didn't look as if we were doing anything special and didn't look miles better than most of the division, just kept picking up points and keeping it rolling along this division isn't that difficult most years but this season looks a lot easier as you lot are finding, all you need is a manager who can get results from a group of decent players, sometimes in an unremarkable way but as long as nothing major happens it all seems so simple. (just watch out for the end of season brucie teams slump that we experienced 3 times, keep them holiday brochures away from him) It's ok he had his holiday before he joined us :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 To me the obvious thing that has held us back especially in the last 2 years is injuries. Look at the teams doing well (in any league) the best players always seem to play week in week out. It is quite unbelievable that we are 2 points off given the injuries, formations, youth, Jos era. Players playing in different positions. Take a look at he Blunts, hardly any injuries, play the same formation week in week out, it pays off (sadly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brissy-owl Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 We would have smashed this league to bits in our 1st season under carlos, its not got much quality at all this season , though if utd go up atleast we can watch them get battered every week, their squad is laughable to think it might play in the epl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Greengrass said: To me the obvious thing that has held us back especially in the last 2 years is injuries. Look at the teams doing well (in any league) the best players always seem to play week in week out. It is quite unbelievable that we are 2 points off given the injuries, formations, youth, Jos era. Players playing in different positions. Take a look at he Blunts, hardly any injuries, play the same formation week in week out, it pays off (sadly). Spot on, for the last 30 minutes yesterday we were missing: Fletcher, Winnall, Hooper, Forestieri, Joao, Hutchinson, Onomah, Lee, Lazaar, Penney, Abdi (haha). But seriously, these are first team players that are missing through fitness/injury. I’m not sure many teams could cope with having 10+ players out and still get results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, hullite said: when brucie got us up twice we used to keep pinching ourselves because we didn't look as if we were doing anything special and didn't look miles better than most of the division, just kept picking up points and keeping it rolling along this division isn't that difficult most years but this season looks a lot easier as you lot are finding, all you need is a manager who can get results from a group of decent players, sometimes in an unremarkable way but as long as nothing major happens it all seems so simple. (just watch out for the end of season brucie teams slump that we experienced 3 times, keep them holiday brochures away from him) He had January in Barbados so hopefully he can survive until June 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternlad Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Think the quality of this division suffers from the premiership gleaning off all the players that could brighten up this league and paying them a fortune to sit on the sidelines most of the season. Look what a difference Hector, Lazaar and Aarons have made and think how many others like them there must be still loitering on the fringes of Premier League clubs. The Championship would be a much better quality league if more of these type of players were playing in it week in week out, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 how strong the championship is on a yearly basis really is down to how the relegated prem clubs do. you always seem to get 1 or 2 champ clubs find a formula, Norwich, udders cardiff wolves brighton fulham over the last few years.. but its relevant to how good the relegated sides are. the two years we pushed for it we had Newcastle fly straight back up, and i think Burnley did the year before. leaves only 1 auto spot for everyone else. but the last 2 seasons while we have been dire, no prem clubs have stormed straight back, allowing wolves, cardiff and fulham to get up. This year swansea and stoke have been an embarrassment considering they was established in the prem. even WBA havent pulled up any trees, leaving the decent champ outfits (Norwich leeds pigs) an open door to chase the prize. we all laughed at the pigs for taking 7 years to get out the pub league yet they seem to timed it about perfect as luck would have it. lets see what happens next year, we will have ourselves sorted out, but we need help from the relegated prem sides. which is why id prefer Cardiff to drop, rather than say southampton, who are more likely to bounce straight back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Yes its difficult. There are lots of good teams in league and very difficult for any team to dominate this league. Wolves dominated last season are comfortable in Premiership. Stoke and Swansea who were relegated have struggled this season in Championship. Probably expected of Swansea who have tried to get rid of debt they were in but Stoke have invested heavily and still struggled. WBA will probably make play offs but with sacking manager and still without manager I doubt if they will be promoted. The relentless nature of league requires a team to have deep squad to function every week and wages prevent this for most clubs. Think quality of players in league is at its highest but the team play is not always that good. The blunts play well as a team and that has been reason for their success. We are now playing more as a team and the results have followed. Many managers try to copy systems which have worked for others and fall short because do not have players to do this. If a team concentrates on what they do well results seem to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 As I said in another thread, people still riding on this myth that spending money equals success. United don't have poo players. They have good players who have all been brought in with a clear vision and strategy in place by an exceptional manager. Football's a team game. We on the other hand have had no vision or strategy and have instead worked under the assumption that spending a bucket of cash on a few players who don't fit into a system or didn't actually improve us would somehow get us promoted. You need an excellent manager. Not buckets of cash. We finally have one thank god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 It’s been weaker for the last 2 seasons, which makes our poor form during that period all the more disappointing. The season before that with Newcastle in there, the other teams were playing for second. You add into that a very good Brighton team and our 4th place finish was pretty good. Shame we didn’t turn up for the play offs, but I think that had a lot to do with losing Hooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAWAWUTO17 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 If you are consistent throughout the season you get promoted. You dont need to play that special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Blue and white said: We have been shambolic for half a season and looked nailed on to go down at one point yet we find ourselves 2 points outside the play offs, granted we have had a massive turnaround under Bruce. The unclean currently sit 2nd, don't have a penny to scratch their filthy piggy arses with, have hardly spent a penny yet look world beaters. Huddersfield went up a couple of seasons ago in much the same fashion as the grunters and at our expense. So my question is, do we honestly think the Championship is really as difficult as people would have us believe. King George III has spoken and I thought he was getting better ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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