Inspector Lestrade Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Hirst1867 said: As the OP has correctly indicated - most of the problems post match could have been avoided had SYP simply done as they said and held back Utd fans - allowing them time to disperse Wednesday fans from the area. The police do not have the power to hold anyone unless they suspect them of committing a crime. They can request fans to hold back but they can can't demand it. As a free man, you have the right to go about your business without being accosted by the authorities. We do live in a free country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWL1969 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mycroft said: The police do not have the power to hold anyone unless they suspect them of committing a crime. They can request fans to hold back but they can can't demand it. As a free man, you have the right to go about your business without being accosted by the authorities. We do live in a free country. But we couldn't exit the South Stand via Leppings Lane. Isn't that against my Human rights? Or have I been deemed to have committed a crime? Needs clarifying on what the Police are or aren't allowed to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 It's a cover up! Come back in 30 years when the documents will be released..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 04/03/2019 at 22:57, unkastav said: Pig on tram had his front teeth knocked out by a copper What led to this slapstick moment ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, OWL1969 said: But we couldn't exit the South Stand via Leppings Lane. Isn't that against my Human rights? Or have I been deemed to have committed a crime? Needs clarifying on what the Police are or aren't allowed to do. No that's not against your human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: One of the finest sows ever, along with Noggin The Nog and Michael Bentines Potty Time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On 05/03/2019 at 14:16, handworth52 said: syp said they have nothing to do with how many supporters we allow in ground or time for game, cause they defo wouldn't agree to fri night derbies if they had there way , if we get a normal Saturday for games and we both have midweek games following week they cant make us play on a Monday ,just this week they aint a full program of league games but they will be next week . the most sensible time would be 12noon sunday little traffic ,hardly any drinking before game and most you would get is a bit of agro in a few pubs in town what can easily be contained . im sure sky could have moved that Watford Leicester game to Monday and we could have played at 12 on sunday. My understanding is that the police are not happy with any day time ko because it results in fan trouble in the city centre after the game. Night ko might cause trouble around the ground but this is a lot easier for them to contain. Any trouble in town before game is generally minimal as most people have jobs. They are only really bothered about problems in the centre as trouble around the ground doesn’t last very long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWL1969 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, oldishowl said: My understanding is that the police are not happy with any day time ko because it results in fan trouble in the city centre after the game. Night ko might cause trouble around the ground but this is a lot easier for them to contain. Any trouble in town before game is generally minimal as most people have jobs. They are only really bothered about problems in the centre as trouble around the ground doesn’t last very long Brilliant SYP logic It also has more chance of many more people getting drawn it and much more chance of innocent people getting hurt (either by the Hooligans or by the Police themselves.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: One of the finest sows ever, along with Noggin The Nog and Michael Bentines Potty Time. Surely not Sarge? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Surely not Sarge? I bet she's never seen Seaman Staines. More likely doing a turn in cell block H. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hirst1867 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mycroft said: The police do not have the power to hold anyone unless they suspect them of committing a crime. They can request fans to hold back but they can can't demand it. As a free man, you have the right to go about your business without being accosted by the authorities. We do live in a free country. Not true The ECHR ruling preventing police from breeching your human right to freedom of movement can be temporarily revoked if police believe that it can prevent a potential breach of the peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hirst1867 said: Not true The ECHR ruling preventing police from breeching your human right to freedom of movement can be temporarily revoked if police believe that it can prevent a potential breach of the peace Wearing a loud shirt in a built up area constitutes said prevention "Book em Danno Murder one"..... Edited March 6, 2019 by OWLERTON GHOST 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hirst1867 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Wearing a loud shirt in a built up area constitutes said prevention "Book em Danno Murder one"..... Rightly so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: What led to this slapstick moment ? A scrap at leppings tram stop. Lad looked gutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, unkastav said: A scrap at leppings tram stop. Lad looked gutted Teeth removal isn't great at the best of times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Wearing a loud shirt in a built up area constitutes said prevention "Book em Danno Murder one"..... Herman John Wedemeyer wouldn't have tolerated such shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Teeth removal isn't great at the best of times. He didnt look the sort to bother cleaning them either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, unkastav said: He didnt look the sort to bother cleaning them either way Did him a favour then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 10 hours ago, OWL1969 said: But we couldn't exit the South Stand via Leppings Lane. Isn't that against my Human rights? Or have I been deemed to have committed a crime? Needs clarifying on what the Police are or aren't allowed to do. The ground belongs to Wednesday they deem where people leave the premises or their agents. I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Hirst1867 said: Not true The ECHR ruling preventing police from breeching your human right to freedom of movement can be temporarily revoked if police believe that it can prevent a potential breach of the peace I stand corrected but can they announce it days in advance? Or does the decision have to made at the time when they suspect there may be trouble about to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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