Jon Newsome Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Beholder said: He was out all of last season ffs. 21 appearances last season, got injured in December like Hooper, but came back to fitness in pre season. Hooper has had a further 7 months out. Also factor in Fletcher looks after himself and clearly lives like an athlete, Hooper usually comes back more bloated than a Xmas turkey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, james o connor said: Sometimes I disagree with you (the whole if you don’t attend 46 games a season you are not a fan) but with you on this . I can’t wait to see the back of hooper , lee , abdi , Jones and Boyd . Five players who have contributed the square route of naff all . To think what those wages (along with Bruce’s arrival ) could have been used towards . Disagree with regards to Hooper and Lee. They have contributed more than most even with the 14 months off injured. But now is probably the time to say bye to them and we can't carry that kind of baggage anymore. Shame because both Lee and Hooper have been 3 times the players for us then the others you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Not Jon Newsome said: 21 appearances last season, got injured in December like Hooper, but came back to fitness in pre season. Hooper has had a further 7 months out. Also factor in Fletcher looks after himself and clearly lives like an athlete, Hooper usually comes back more bloated than a Xmas turkey. They have different games. Hooper is all about skill, vision and close control under any amount of pressure (and goals of course). He would compliment Fletcher perfectly with his current form. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, pazowl55 said: Disagree with regards to Hooper and Lee. They have contributed more than most even with the 14 months off injured. But now is probably the time to say bye to them and we can't carry that kind of baggage anymore. Shame because both Lee and Hooper have been 3 times the players for us then the others you mentioned. Lee has been a great servant but he’s done . Wish him well In whatever he does . Hooper hasn’t played enough games , but again good player , wish him well . The other three were stupid signings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, james o connor said: Sometimes I disagree with you (the whole if you don’t attend 46 games a season you are not a fan) but with you on this . I can’t wait to see the back of hooper , lee , abdi , Jones and Boyd . Five players who have contributed the square route of naff all . To think what those wages (along with Bruce’s arrival ) could have been used towards . Totally agree. Lee has been a big asset while fit and Hooper has played his part at times but we are not a charity and there is no place for sentiment. All of these are on relatively huge wages for our level and we are in no position to dish contracts out like we did previously. Use this money on young hungry players who have a sell on value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulsar Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 hour ago, S26 Owl said: Lee is more important than hooper Try telling Chief Brody that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Beholder said: They have different games. Hooper is all about skill, vision and close control under any amount of pressure (and goals of course). He would compliment Fletcher perfectly with his current form. I agree with your description of Hooper, but that was Hooper of 2-3 years ago. I would say chances of him getting back to that are slim. His fitness record before his current injury wasn't the best either. Fed up of Wednesday for god knows how long being hampered by players being injuried. One way to improve this is not dishing out contracts to players who have poor fitness records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, matthefish2002 said: I agree with your description of Hooper, but that was Hooper of 2-3 years ago. I would say chances of him getting back to that are slim. His fitness record before his current injury wasn't the best either. Fed up of Wednesday for god knows how long being hampered by players being injuried. One way to improve this is not dishing out contracts to players who have poor fitness records. I'm more thinking about an exciting end to this season than new contracts. You gotta admit it would be the stuff of fairytales for hoops and Lee to return with us still in the hunt for the playoffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Posts like this show why people say Wednesday fans live in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Hooper, Lee, Abdi, Boyd & Jones many thanks and good luck wherever you may go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Beholder said: I'm more thinking about an exciting end to this season than new contracts. You gotta admit it would be the stuff of fairytales for hoops and Lee to return with us still in the hunt for the playoffs. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, torres said: yep Touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Think everyone needs to accept the situation with Hooper. His playing days are coming to an end. Even if we get him back for 3, 4, 5, even 7 or 8 games he will break down again at some point given the demands of modern day football. All the best to him but we need an attacking future built on more solid foundations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Beholder said: Hooper is still the best player in the squad, and a better option than Forestieri in that position. a bit OTT, he's our best finisher definitely, but isn't even our best striker, Fletcher is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockers Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Hooper has featured in 70 odd games - the equivalent of a season and a half in 4 years. It is time to move him on and free up his considerable wages. We've made him a multi millionaire for a 29 goal return. Not for me thanks. I have every confidence in Steve Bruce identifying a younger and fitter replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: Hooper, Lee, Abdi, Boyd & Jones many thanks and good luck wherever you may go. Add Matias to that aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Add Matias to that aswell. And Nuihu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Cockers said: Hooper has featured in 70 odd games - the equivalent of a season and a half in 4 years. It is time to move him on and free up his considerable wages. We've made him a multi millionaire for a 29 goal return. Not for me thanks. I have every confidence in Steve Bruce identifying a younger and fitter replacement. He has also got a lot better at golf Edited February 27, 2019 by torres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHNHARKES Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Hooper and Fletcher up top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 hours ago, prowl said: Realistically Hooper would take 5 or six games to get properly match fit after such a long lay off. I love the guy, we are a different class when he is on the pitch but realistically he isn't going to have enough time to make an impact this season. Lee might be a better bet if he was training with the time now. His fitness/ engine is better than Hooper so he can get up to speed quicker. I just don't think he's close yet. Hoopers days with us are probably over unless he takes a big drop in wages. Lee might be worth keeping. the likelihood is IF both get fit and return injury free, and that's one really big IF, then neither will be the player they once were, 'time waits for no man'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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