Birley Owl 1867 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 53 minutes ago, DuttyTeabags said: Pay as you play, win, goal and assist bonuses which over a successful season are as much as his current package But he won't accept it will he? He'd go for the guaranteed money. Like every sensible person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Pay as you play deals still involve a basic weekly wage. Its just that that's a lot lower and his apperences bonuses will be a lot higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadzilla Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Don't get why certain people are getting 'touchy' about this scenario. I rate Hooper as one of the best players at the club but what's the point when he's constantly injured? He's the favourite striker to leave the club for me because Nuhiu, Winnall and Rhodes are all under contract. Horrible to see as well because I really do love him as a player but with FFP looming over us we might need to cut ties now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Owl Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Holmowl said: As an aside... Hooper has played more minutes in the last two seasons than Hutch and FF. Really? Did not know that. Interesting considering the grief hooper gets on here for his fitness levels. Regardless of injury records I would keep all three because when fit they are all top quality championship players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Holmowl said: As an aside... Hooper has played more minutes in the last two seasons than Hutch and FF. Really? Is that including this season or do you mean last 2 full seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 A lot of the game time Hutch missed this season wasn't down to injury though was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, asteener1867 said: A lot of the game time Hutch missed this season wasn't down to injury though was it? Dross used FF sparingly also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Look at the risk? what sort of contract are we gonna offer? Has he time to actually prove himself match fit before the season ends? We can't afford to simply ignore FFP can we? No bugger knows how its going to pan out.... AND...Look how we are playing at the minute?..Does he fit?..Does it matter? I'm not saying Ive got the answers.,..I'm simply saying there are valid questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 hours ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: Really? Is that including this season or do you mean last 2 full seasons? 17/18 and 18/19 league games Hooper 22 starts 1930 mins FF 16 starts 1570 mins Sam 21 starts 1690 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: 17/18 and 18/19 league games Hooper -- Greens In Regulation 12 of 18.. Sand Saves 32% - PPR - 32 FF 16 starts 1570 mins Sam 21 starts 1690 mins Not Tour Standard by any means but impressive ..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: 17/18 and 18/19 league games Hooper 22 starts 1930 mins FF 16 starts 1570 mins Sam 21 starts 1690 mins Not good stats for any of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: But we aren’t signing a player from forest, we aren’t spending mo ey except wages, we need bodies here next year and plenty will be released. He costs no transfer fee and if he gets fit is in the 5-10 mill striker bracket at least. No one is suggesting we go silly and sign him on a 3-5 year deal but to totally write him off with our situation is just barmy. With the clubs financial issues and Wednesday been handicapped more then most with injuries over last few years be barmy to give a contract to an over 30 player who has not played for over a year. Need a fresh start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: In this thread there is another myth too about him being injured constantly before this, he was playing mid 30 games every season for ages before this injury. People just assume because hes had a bad i jury nes I jury prone full stop. And that’s testicles Since we signed him 3 years ago, he’s been injury prone. You can’t deny that. And it’s been more than 1 long injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: With the clubs financial issues and Wednesday been handicapped more then most with injuries over last few years be barmy to give a contract to an over 30 player who has not played for over a year. Need a fresh start. Agree. Its a massive shame. He’s a quality player when he’s fit and in the mood. Can completely understand people wanting to cling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: He’s had three seasons the first one he wasn’t, the back end of the season second half he got injured and we played him too early coming back and then he went out again, that’s not injury prone that’s reckless management of players He he hasn’t had those injury problems anywhere else in major ways. We ruined so many players under CC he should be crucified for what he did to our squad. He only played 60 odd games at Norwich for 3 seasons before he came to us. Thats about half a season each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, 2roland2 said: In this thread there is another myth too about him being injured constantly before this, he was playing mid 30 games every season for ages before this injury. People just assume because hes had a bad i jury nes I jury prone full stop. And that’s testicles What about the 60 games for norwich for 3 seasons before he came to us. Dont know what that equates to but it doesnt sound like mid 30's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, 2roland2 said: It doesn’t matter what I would offer him, it’s what the club will, and why he will accept. wear offloading a lot of contracts which we are it wouldn’t be horrendous to take a small risk if he’s back playing because we aren’t spending transfer fees. Offering hooper a new deal if relatively fit or lee for that matter isn’t going to get us a point deduction, they could be like signing two 5-10 million players if they come back and get fit, Time will tell and I wouldn’t write either off just yet, even if we don’t take th punt someone will. And this isn’t a reply to you billy but in general, people keep saying his record sipuggeats he will get injured again, that’s testicles it’s the past two seasons that did his damage under the ridiculous CC era, we probably played him and made it ten times worse whilst he was injured same with lee. With th Wright rehabilitations players have come back from a hell of a lot worse injuries than these two had. Ok. Assume he gets fit. We wont be able to offer him what hes on now. Assuming we wanted him to stay i will punt he goes to the states instead or another overseas league, china maybe. Wages we will be offering post season will be about 10k a week i reckon due to the embargo. Hooper fit or not wont be entertaining. At his age he is nowhere near a 5 to 10 million signing either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Holmowl said: 17/18 and 18/19 league games Hooper 22 starts 1930 mins FF 16 starts 1570 mins Sam 21 starts 1690 mins FF 16 starts in two seasons fizz me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: Agree. Its a massive shame. He’s a quality player when he’s fit and in the mood. Can completely understand people wanting to cling on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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