casbahowl Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, s29wfc said: I don't get this. Surely if we release Palmer then we'd need to sign another to replace him (2 for each position) as we would only have Iorfa to play there. Im not including baker cos i do believe hes out of contract too and I just don't rate him. So we'd be foolish not to offer Palmer a new deal as it would cost more money to get someone else in, Palmer won't be on big wages either. The same argument can be made for most of the out of contract players! The squad is top heavy and has to be pruned back, SB has already said this. The only one to survive the cull would be Westwood............. and a big maybe on Hooper if he could prove his fitness in the last third of the season. All the rest will go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 12 hours ago, bigsheff said: Based on what? Based on him playing it at previous clubs and having discussed it as an option in interviews since. I am sure it is not set in stone and he will be taking the opportunity to consider what will be the best formation for the core of the squad to build on in the remaining games but it is an option he will be considering. Either way, I would expect Iorfa to feature at CB at some point given that he mentioned this as his preferred choice after the move so I would imagine it was something he discussed before agreeing to sign for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Looks like a player that, if he lost his man/makes a mistake, he’d recover anyway in a couple of big strides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Beholder said: What I find funny is the usual Palmer detractors have to increase their anti - Palmer post count in an attempt to overcome the fact that the majority can now see what a good player he is. Thankfully it is just the odd poster now. I am glad he is finally winning over the fan base, he deserves it. He's never played this well though has he. Bit like Nuhiu 2nd half of last season. I like Palmer, he supports the club. Hes a fan and a player but lets be honest he's never been that good a player at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: He's never played this well though has he. Bit like Nuhiu 2nd half of last season. I like Palmer, he supports the club. Hes a fan and a player but lets be honest he's never been that good a player at this level. Apart from when he won player of the season? 1 hour ago, Junk Smuggler said: For the money we reportedly paid I think he’s a great acquisition as he can play both positions. He had a whole Championship season at RB with Ipswich did he not? His pace and height can only be a good thing at CB but probably only with a wiser more organised head next to him. I think Iorfa looks like a great acquisition but I maintain that he definitely is a centre-half (he’s stated that himself) and looked like a centre-half playing fullback yesterday. He can do a job there, great, but I can’t see him deposing Palmer. If we are going to replace Palmer then we need a bloody good specialist right back to do so in my humble opinion. I don’t understand the mindset that implies that Palmer is or has been cheating the club by proving he’s a good fullback recently - I think he’s been good all season but I’ll not pursue that argument. Back to Iorfa: he looks like a bloody good acquisition because he’s obviously a centre-half that can fill in at fullback if needed but he also looks athletic enough to cover in defensive midfield also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, TheEnchanter said: He's never played this well though has he. Bit like Nuhiu 2nd half of last season. I like Palmer, he supports the club. Hes a fan and a player but lets be honest he's never been that good a player at this level. Another myth Player of the season 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, shandypants said: Apart from when he won player of the season? I think Iorfa looks like a great acquisition but I maintain that he definitely is a centre-half (he’s stated that himself) and looked like a centre-half playing fullback yesterday. He can do a job there, great, but I can’t see him deposing Palmer. If we are going to replace Palmer then we need a bloody good specialist right back to do so in my humble opinion. I don’t understand the mindset that implies that Palmer is or has been cheating the club by proving he’s a good fullback recently - I think he’s been good all season but I’ll not pursue that argument. Back to Iorfa: he looks like a bloody good acquisition because he’s obviously a centre-half that can fill in at fullback if needed but he also looks athletic enough to cover in defensive midfield also. Shakes head . Note to self stop logging on as much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Shakes head . Note to self stop logging on as much Why are you shaking your head. Iorfa stated the very same himself when he was interviewed after joining on deadline day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Obvs you know more than Bruce ffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, hugeowl said: Another myth Player of the season 2014 . Hows it a myth that hes not that good. Player of the season 2014. Wow. Brilliant. What about now? This isn't a personal attack on the lad, its on topic with the thread but basically we need better if we want to progress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) I’d keep him at right back for now. Perhaps that’s why palmers performance levels have increased, he’s got this unit waiting in the wings. He’s gonna be our fullback for years Edited February 24, 2019 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, TheEnchanter said: Hows it a myth that hes not that good. Player of the season 2014. Wow. Brilliant. What about now? This isn't a personal attack on the lad, its on topic with the thread but basically we need better if we want to progress We need better in every position if we want to progress but to say he has never played this well is obviously not correct is it , hence his player of the season award . but hey you believe what you want to believe . In my eyes he is / was better than Jack Hunt but got pushed back because we paid money for Hunt , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc.4.ever Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 In the 2nd half on Saturday, did you see his run down the flank and early cross into the box. perfect for right full back or wing back. the lad has pace to burn (not really seen the quality of his crosses yet as he has not had enough game time, but surely it cannot be any worse than Palmers delivery), Pace its what we have been lacking. Having said that, if Palmer keeps playing like he did on Saturday, he deserves the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) You can't argue with the Palmer haters. They are relentless. They will their defend their (ridiculous) opinion forever. It will only end when Palmer no longer plays for us. Its the definition of trolling. Edited February 24, 2019 by Beholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian joicey Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 23/02/2019 at 17:17, shandypants said: Iorfa has good pace and great anticipation but he isn’t a fullback. He’s the sort of player I’d describe as having raw talent. He did really well when he came on but I can’t see him deposing Palmer (who was fvvcking excellent yet again by the way. Can’t use his explosive pace (going forward) at centre back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Beholder said: You can't argue with the Palmer haters. They are relentless. They will their defend their (ridiculous) opinion forever. It will only end when Palmer no longer plays for us. Its the definition of trolling. Grow up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 10 hours ago, hugeowl said: We need better in every position if we want to progress but to say he has never played this well is obviously not correct is it , hence his player of the season award . but hey you believe what you want to believe . In my eyes he is / was better than Jack Hunt but got pushed back because we paid money for Hunt , Jack Hunt was definitely better than Palmer IMO. You wouldn’t have got anyone paying us £1.6m for Palmer like they did with Hunt Palmer is having a good spell though, long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 His stride and the way he stretches for the ball really reminds me of Carlton Palmer. Give him a try in midfield, he could be that box to box midfielder we've been after for decades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I think he's a full back he's certainly not a CB but weather he can be the first choice in the position I don't know. Think the wing back role would suit him most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 hours ago, WhiteOwl91 said: Jack Hunt was definitely better than Palmer IMO. You wouldn’t have got anyone paying us £1.6m for Palmer like they did with Hunt Palmer is having a good spell though, long may it continue. I’m not so sure Palmer played as much nearly as much under Carlos as Hunt , was hunt 1.6M BETTER than Palmer and the answer was no, one assist in his 3 years he wasn’t good enough and isn’t even first choice at Bristol now either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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