Popular Post frastheowl Posted February 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2019 I like my stats. And I particularly like the usage of the ever more popular (and common) Expected Goals statistics. And a warning...if you don't like graphs...click Back now. Essentially, for every effort on goal, a number is given (actually a percentage) to indicate how good a chance that is. Lots of factors are taken into account, whether it's a header, a shot, an open net, a dead ball situation etc etc. As a crude rule, the teams who create a high Expected Goals number (and concede a low Expected Goal number) tend to be the better performing sides in the division. They can indicate trends, and whether runs of form are sustainable (more on that later), if teams genuinely are unfortunate or if a team is statistically punching above their weight. And using the InfoGol website, things are starting to look up for our rejuvenated side following the dismissal of Jos. This graph shows the Expected Goals difference in each of our game weeks. Example, 1st game of the season, Wigan Away. Wigan created 2.42 xG, whilst we created 1.36 xG, therefore our xG Diff was -1.06. The Brown shading represents Jos' time here, Orange Bullen's, Green Agnew/Clemence's and finally Blue is Bruce's. As you can see, throughout Jos' period in charge we were constantly conceding better chances than we were creating. Even when we had the run which culminated in us sitting in the playoff positions, we were still performing to a negative xG difference. Indicating the run was unsustainable, and heavily reliant on good fortune (either underperforming opposition strikers, overperforming goalkeeping or overperforming in our own finishing...i.e. Reach's run of wonder strikes). Bullen began to change things for the better, although we only managed to outperform the opposition in one of his three games in charge. Agnew oversaw our best performance of the season...the 1-1 draw against Birmingham. We created a high xG in that game, and limited Birmingham to very little. In Bruce's 1st two games, granted against two of the league's worst sides, we've put in two dominant displays in terms of xG. For the 1st time this season, we've managed to maintain a positive 5 game average xG diff for a sustained period of time. Taking the Hull game as an anomaly, since game week 21 (Rotherham) we've seen a definite trending improvement. Essentially, what this indicates is, if we start to find our shooting boots and maintain the current levels of performance, our results will continue to improve. Our offensive xG has actually remained at a similar level throughout the season, between 0.75 and 1 for the most part. Indicating, on average, we're creating enough chances to score about a goal a game. What has changed, aside from a 5 game stretch between GW 15 and 19, is we are currently underperforming to our xG, whereas our over-performance earlier in the season we down to our ability to score goals from positions with a low xG. Prime examples are Reach's goals against Boro, Leeds and WBA or both goals away at Reading (combined xG of 0.09 resulted in a actual goal score of 2.0). But, without doubt, our biggest improvement since Jos' departure is our ability to prevent the opposition creating good quality chances. Almost instantly from the game week of Jos' departuure (GW22), our xG against numbers have nosedived. In only one game since Jos' departure have we conceded a xG of more than 1.0, against Hull, which is beginning to look more and more like an anomaly...an off day. Overall, there's reasons to remain positive. I'm certain Bruce will want us to start to ensuring we convert the chances we create. If we do so, and maintain our recent trend of conceding few good quality chances, results can only continue to improve. 15 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Love stuff like this. Well done mate. Onwards and upwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Tell me Doctor, will I be here until Christmas? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alanharper Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I've got absolutely no idea what's going on in the opening post, but I know I can't remember the last time that we had seven shots on target in the first half like we did on Saturday. (OK there weren't any in the second half but there should have been, shouldn't there Adam?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 What you've got to realise is that all clubs will now have someone dedicated to generating stats like this. Very much part of the set up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Basically Jos didn't have a clue. For that defensive improvement to happen immediately it proves Jos was utterly inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Beholder said: Basically Jos didn't have a clue. For that defensive improvement to happen immediately it proves Jos was utterly inept. Bizarre when you think he was a 'defensive coach' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beholder said: Basically Jos didn't have a clue. For that defensive improvement to happen immediately it proves Jos was utterly inept. And, the departure of Jos, coincided with the reintroduction of key defensive players Hutchinson and Westwood. Although, for the most part, Dawson outperformed the expected xG he should have conceded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Love it. Where did you get the data from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Luhakay was a Grade A Bulb. Am glad he's now back where he belongs growing prize marrows in his allotment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Interesting but I can't shake the feeling the the graph goes up when we play teams at the bottom and down when we play teams at the top. Cause or effect is the question for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 It's still on then. Goal fever for the run in. Saturday was a blip, we're goin on a jamboree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldsowl Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 So basically, we're looking at 0-0 for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, frastheowl said: I like my stats. And I particularly like the usage of the ever more popular (and common) Expected Goals statistics. And a warning...if you don't like graphs...click Back now. Essentially, for every effort on goal, a number is given (actually a percentage) to indicate how good a chance that is. Lots of factors are taken into account, whether it's a header, a shot, an open net, a dead ball situation etc etc. As a crude rule, the teams who create a high Expected Goals number (and concede a low Expected Goal number) tend to be the better performing sides in the division. They can indicate trends, and whether runs of form are sustainable (more on that later), if teams genuinely are unfortunate or if a team is statistically punching above their weight. And using the InfoGol website, things are starting to look up for our rejuvenated side following the dismissal of Jos. This graph shows the Expected Goals difference in each of our game weeks. Example, 1st game of the season, Wigan Away. Wigan created 2.42 xG, whilst we created 1.36 xG, therefore our xG Diff was -1.06. The Brown shading represents Jos' time here, Orange Bullen's, Green Agnew/Clemence's and finally Blue is Bruce's. As you can see, throughout Jos' period in charge we were constantly conceding better chances than we were creating. Even when we had the run which culminated in us sitting in the playoff positions, we were still performing to a negative xG difference. Indicating the run was unsustainable, and heavily reliant on good fortune (either underperforming opposition strikers, overperforming goalkeeping or overperforming in our own finishing...i.e. Reach's run of wonder strikes). Bullen began to change things for the better, although we only managed to outperform the opposition in one of his three games in charge. Agnew oversaw our best performance of the season...the 1-1 draw against Birmingham. We created a high xG in that game, and limited Birmingham to very little. In Bruce's 1st two games, granted against two of the league's worst sides, we've put in two dominant displays in terms of xG. For the 1st time this season, we've managed to maintain a positive 5 game average xG diff for a sustained period of time. Taking the Hull game as an anomaly, since game week 21 (Rotherham) we've seen a definite trending improvement. Essentially, what this indicates is, if we start to find our shooting boots and maintain the current levels of performance, our results will continue to improve. Our offensive xG has actually remained at a similar level throughout the season, between 0.75 and 1 for the most part. Indicating, on average, we're creating enough chances to score about a goal a game. What has changed, aside from a 5 game stretch between GW 15 and 19, is we are currently underperforming to our xG, whereas our over-performance earlier in the season we down to our ability to score goals from positions with a low xG. Prime examples are Reach's goals against Boro, Leeds and WBA or both goals away at Reading (combined xG of 0.09 resulted in a actual goal score of 2.0). But, without doubt, our biggest improvement since Jos' departure is our ability to prevent the opposition creating good quality chances. Almost instantly from the game week of Jos' departuure (GW22), our xG against numbers have nosedived. In only one game since Jos' departure have we conceded a xG of more than 1.0, against Hull, which is beginning to look more and more like an anomaly...an off day. Overall, there's reasons to remain positive. I'm certain Bruce will want us to start to ensuring we convert the chances we create. If we do so, and maintain our recent trend of conceding few good quality chances, results can only continue to improve. Good stuff that mate Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Any particular reason you chose brown shading for Jos's games? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I love this sort of analysis and stats, but I can't help thinking that all it says is: 7 clean sheets in ten is a good thing, and a big improvement on earlier in the season; Hull away was a bit of a freak result (although I suspect similar analysis from a Hull perspective would show it wasn't for them); We are now creating more chances, but still not scoring enough. I'm not sure that we need the analysis to tell us that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Sultan_Pepper said: Interesting but I can't shake the feeling the the graph goes up when we play teams at the bottom and down when we play teams at the top. Cause or effect is the question for me It’s something I could easily confirm, when I get chance. But, just off the top of my head, the games against Norwich, Sheffield United (only as a result of the penalty) and Leeds all equates to a sizeable negative xG difference. The games against WBA, Derby, Boro, Villa not so much. In fact, in both games against WBA we out scored them in terms of xG. Interestingly, our win at Reading was statistically fortunate, and the game away at Wigan, a fully deserved defeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Pablo Bonvin said: Any particular reason you chose brown shading for Jos's games? Purely coincidental 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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