Mus Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 All players have strength and weaknesses but I thought today showed his weaknesses despite some good form recently. He is very lightweight physically and therefore has no punch in tackles, when he does make them, which is not often. Saying that he has put some cracking crosses in in the last few games, its a pity our 'strike force' can't produce anything from them, frustrating indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 hours ago, S72 Owl said: I suppose he knew what he was doing when he crossed the ball into his own box too then Knew this was gonna come up. Not sure how fox got blame for that at all. He passed the ball to Thorniley who for some reason just left it. Hector did it earlier in the half, passed the ball very similar to Palmer who had the presence of mind to not leave the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Palmer & Fox have been singled out these last 2 seasons as being too poor for the championship For me, Palmer has shown levels of championship standard especially over the last 2 months, playing well in a number of games. Defensively capable, with attacking intent and athleticism. Fox merely survives games in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1867 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, DELUDED OWL said: The thing is,since Jos was sacked,Fox has proven to be a more than adequate squad player,good enough long term remains to be seen,but it winds me up no end,when fans revert to rippin him a new @ss again because..........................................well, just because his name is morgan fox. I disagree that he has proven that. Fox is all we have had available in the position since before Jos left. This is not proof of his adequacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 13 hours ago, BrainJoicey said: Despite SB being happy with another clean sheet (as I am too) Fox has demonstrated today his many inadequencies. Distribution poor. Aggression non existent attacking potential nil. Each time I looked at SB when Fox was involved I could see him wince. I have every faith in SB as we move forward. Fox has to disappear quickly! Definitely didn't go yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainless Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Knew this was gonna come up. Not sure how fox got blame for that at all. He passed the ball to Thorniley who for some reason just left it. Hector did it earlier in the half, passed the ball very similar to Palmer who had the presence of mind to not leave the ball. Fully agree with this it appeared to me that Thorniley also left the ball or wasn't interested did he hear a shout from somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 So you were looking at Steve Bruce every time Fox was involved? So how do you know if Fox played well or not? I reckon Fox would be 25% better if the crowd gave him some support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Both need replacing. But that doesn’t take away from the fact they’ve improved in recent weeks and contributed to a good number of clean sheets. They deserve praise for that, particularly considering fans are so quick to criticise them. They’ve both shown good character. Wasn’t long ago Fox was being booed when his name was read out by the announcer, how pathetic. Promotion for me is a pipe dream for a good number of years. A lot of people will realise that in the summer when the embargo hits. Therefore we should look to give Palmer another extension and we may well have no other alternative to Fox. Therefore it’s important we get behind them and praise them for a good couple of months in the side. Rather than criticising them every time we don’t get the result we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Both need replacing. But that doesn’t take away from the fact they’ve improved in recent weeks and contributed to a good number of clean sheets. They deserve praise for that, particularly considering fans are so quick to criticise them. They’ve both shown good character. Wasn’t long ago Fox was being booed when his name was read out by the announcer, how pathetic. Promotion for me is a pipe dream for a good number of years. A lot of people will realise that in the summer when the embargo hits. Therefore we should look to give Palmer another extension and we may well have no other alternative to Fox. Therefore it’s important we get behind them and praise them for a good couple of months in the side. Rather than criticising them every time we don’t get the result we want. Supposition and fabrication m'lud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 To those screaming for Fox to be replaced. Just who are you going to replace him with? Penney... recovering from injury Pudil...Can no longer last 90 minutes even at centre back. Thorniley...not his position. Lazaar... maybe but nowhere near match fit and not rated by Newcastle fans I’m certain Bruce can see our left side is weak but his options right now are limited and that back 4 are keeping clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 14 hours ago, BrainJoicey said: Despite SB being happy with another clean sheet (as I am too) Fox has demonstrated today his many inadequencies. Distribution poor. Aggression non existent attacking potential nil. Each time I looked at SB when Fox was involved I could see him wince. I have every faith in SB as we move forward. Fox has to disappear quickly! Which match did you go to yesterday? It wasn't the same one saw, certainly. Thought Fox put in an extremely good shift, not only doing his own job, but covering forthree crap players in front of him - Boyd, who had another stinker, the much feted Barry Bannan, who was either missing or played every ball back immediately as is his wont, and Fo5testieri, who wandered around like the proverbial lost Jew, wanting his own way all the time. Certainly the great FF was not on the pitch yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Hopefully Bruce is going to introduce change to the team as he eases his way in. If not then we are in trouble, and Fox is one that needs to go Fox is lacking in too many aspects of a modern full back. We were crying out yesterday for some dynamism and a desire to get forward and attack . To effectively knock a poor Reading side out of the game. So why criticise a full back for this? The way we set up meant we were lacking in centre midfield and needed the attacking impetus to come from out wide. Palmer and Reach did this a bit, especially first half. Boyd and Fox never did it. Fox is too slow in both mind and body, lacking in the character and confidence required to effect a game. He is somebody who will sit back and see what happens, let others take the responsibility . Not bad defensively as long as he doesn’t get exposed, when he panics. We need rid of the shrinking violets, need character, bottle and pace in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I beg your pardon. You and me, behind the bike sheds now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 This Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there another player(s) between the full back and the wing Forward? Or do we only play with 10 men?. During the first half, Palmer and Reach (playing in a R Wing position) interchanged extremely well. In the second half The distance between Fox and Boyd was tremendous. When R&P went forward, there was cover. When Fox and Boyd went forward, there was a gap. .The difference - Hutch on the right, Bannan on the ... ?... Incidentally, a player is not offside until he comes into play that is , makes an effort for the ball. The Lino does not raise his flag until the player makes an effort for the ball. This is why so many Linos , quite correctly, seem 'late ' flagging for offside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Buxtongent said: This Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there another player(s) between the full back and the wing Forward? Or do we only play with 10 men?. During the first half, Palmer and Reach (playing in a R Wing position) interchanged extremely well. In the second half The distance between Fox and Boyd was tremendous. When R&P went forward, there was cover. When Fox and Boyd went forward, there was a gap. .The difference - Hutch on the right, Bannan on the ... ?... Incidentally, a player is not offside until he comes into play that is , makes an effort for the ball. The Lino does not raise his flag until the player makes an effort for the ball. This is why so many Linos , quite correctly, seem 'late ' flagging for offside. Exactly how I saw it. Fox was exposed by the lack of support from Boyd, I personally thought he had an average game, not a mare. Strange how we keep a clean sheet and the defence get a battering but the forwards couldn't hit a cows ar5e with a banjo but that's Owlstalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, BC1867 said: I disagree that he has proven that. Fox is all we have had available in the position since before Jos left. This is not proof of his adequacy. Its an opinion,thats all,you and others "don't rate " him regardless of what he does,its cool. Edited February 10, 2019 by DELUDED OWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 18 hours ago, peacock1961 said: Tbh Fox isn't good enough for a promotion team, but he wasn't the problem today. Boyd in front of him was as dire as dire can be. Some of you seem to pick on the lad and yet cant see what a clean sheet means. The defence including Fox did their job today, the 'superstars' in midfield and upfront didn't. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1867 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, DELUDED OWL said: Its an opinion,thats all,you and others "don't rate " him regardless of what he does,its cool. No mate. It’s what he does that is the reason I don’t rate him. I’m happy he is doing ok at the moment but we need way way better and even he knows that tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, BC1867 said: and even he knows that tbf. Do you know him? When did he tell you this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I don't particularly rate Fox but he's obviously been performing better since the return of Westwood in goal as has the rest of the back four. Should he be a long term option for us? Probably not but the fact that he's still under contract beyond this season means he's got a chance of staying in the team given the likely recruitment constraints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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