roaminowl Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 5 hours ago, trevdi9 said: I have the same when I do a small walk How small Trev? To the beer fridge...and back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Sham67 said: Seems to be a difference of opinion here. Which one is peddling fake news? There's no difference of opinion on the underpinning science, what Owl14 is highlighting is the basis of the science behind energy utilisation during exercise and more specifically the role of sugar, or as he said glucose, but if we're being more specific it's stored glucose which is glycogen that needs to be converted to glucose to fuel ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate) through a process glycolysis. None of that can be disputed, it's just the science of fuelling exercise. What i disputed was the need for sugar in the form of sweets in professional sports. If a player is reaching for sugar in the form of sweets to fuel their training then something went wrong along the way. Either they missed meals and didn't fuel as they should or someone forgot the more optimal fuelling solutions such as cyclic dextrin. Owl14's point about improved performance is somewhat vague too, it infers sugars are necessary for all performance improvements or that performance cannot be improved without sugared up full glycogen, however for aerobic based activity a case for training low state (not carbed up) or even just on fats could be beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Well. It's obviously the sweets that Steve Bruce brought back from his holiday init Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 The lack of knowledge the average person has on diet and nutrition is worrying, anyone can indulge in the odd pizza or burger even athletes, it won't make them fat or unfit as it's all about calories in vs calories out. Pro football players probably have to eat a caloric surplus to even maintain their weight with the calories they burn daily. Eating a few sugary sweets is great for a burst of energy, has no one ever noticed the drinks that players take in during the game are not just pure water, they'll be isotonic sports drinks. No wonder we have so many fat bald fans in skin tight Wednesday shirts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 49 minutes ago, Not Jon Newsome said: The lack of knowledge the average person has on diet and nutrition is worrying, anyone can indulge in the odd pizza or burger even athletes, it won't make them fat or unfit as it's all about calories in vs calories out. Pro football players probably have to eat a caloric surplus to even maintain their weight with the calories they burn daily. Eating a few sugary sweets is great for a burst of energy, has no one ever noticed the drinks that players take in during the game are not just pure water, they'll be isotonic sports drinks. No wonder we have so many fat bald fans in skin tight Wednesday shirts. Yes, it's a well known fact that a lack of diet and nutrition knowledge causes hair loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklord Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Just as long as is not Haribo. That stuff is crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 08/02/2019 at 13:05, Owlinmad said: I honestly thought your post said "when I'm on a big un" at first glance. Nah dude. Ya need less energy for a big un. One good thrust and the ripples take you the rest of the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Not Jon Newsome said: The lack of knowledge the average person has on diet and nutrition is worrying, anyone can indulge in the odd pizza or burger even athletes, it won't make them fat or unfit as it's all about calories in vs calories out. Pro football players probably have to eat a caloric surplus to even maintain their weight with the calories they burn daily. Eating a few sugary sweets is great for a burst of energy, has no one ever noticed the drinks that players take in during the game are not just pure water, they'll be isotonic sports drinks. No wonder we have so many fat bald fans in skin tight Wednesday shirts. Performance nutrition is about a LOT more than ‘calories in Vs Calories out’ of it wasn’t you’d probably get the nutritionist job at S6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 So, basically a useful thing for athletes then? If used under the correct circumstances? Great thread. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, hawksmore said: Performance nutrition is about a LOT more than ‘calories in Vs Calories out’ of it wasn’t you’d probably get the nutritionist job at S6. As if you would get it .lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: As if you would get it .lol I can’t ever Imagine being so offended because someone has an education and does a job that you pretend to know about and therefore comments with both knowledge and experience on the topic matter. The fact you’re so intent on being right to the point you resort to being insulting says a lot more about your mental health than it does about your knowledge too. I genuinely hope you’re ok fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, hawksmore said: I can’t ever Imagine being so offended because someone has an education and does a job that you pretend to know about and therefore comments with both knowledge and experience on the topic matter. The fact you’re so intent on being right to the point you resort to being insulting says a lot more about your mental health than it does about your knowledge too. I genuinely hope you’re ok fella. I'm not the one making stuff up and pretending to be an expert pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 If sunny delight makes kids bossed eyed and manically energetic... surely it should replace isotonic drinks at the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: I'm not the one making stuff up and pretending to be an expert pal Ok answer this: If sugar in the form of sweets is so good for the players energy why don't they have bags of haribo by the side of the pitch during matches? Also, if sugar is so important for energy and you think i'm wrong about the nutritional strategies at SWFC, why are there bottles of a isotonic stevia (a low calorie alternative to sugar) drink at the side of the pitch? Also why are there no research papers on pizza as a recovery option in professional sports on pubmed? Let's say i am lying and unemployed, i've just kicked your balls with basic logic kidda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, hawksmore said: Ok answer this: If sugar in the form of sweets is so good for the players energy why don't they have bags of haribo by the side of the pitch during matches? Also, if sugar is so important for energy and you think i'm wrong about the nutritional strategies at SWFC, why are there bottles of a isotonic stevia (a low calorie alternative to sugar) drink at the side of the pitch? Also why are there no research papers on pizza as a recovery option in professional sports on pubmed? Let's say i am lying and unemployed, i've just kicked your balls with basic logic kidda Nice googling. The experts at our club know more than you. Hence why they get employed in that area and you don't Edited February 9, 2019 by Belfast Owl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Just now, Belfast Owl 2 said: Nice googling. The experts at our club know more than you. Hence why they get employed. What's to google, i just asked a question I just put your reply through google translate though, it came back with this: 'i don't know' it must be difficult being as thick as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, hawksmore said: What's to google, i just asked a question I just put your reply through google translate though, it came back with this: 'i don't know' it must be difficult being as thick as you. So you know damn all about this area. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Only on Owlstalk can a thread about chuffin Harribo sweets turn into a slagging match on sports nutrition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Not Jon Newsome said: The lack of knowledge the average person has on diet and nutrition is worrying, anyone can indulge in the odd pizza or burger even athletes, it won't make them fat or unfit as it's all about calories in vs calories out. Pro football players probably have to eat a caloric surplus to even maintain their weight with the calories they burn daily. Eating a few sugary sweets is great for a burst of energy, has no one ever noticed the drinks that players take in during the game are not just pure water, they'll be isotonic sports drinks. No wonder we have so many fat bald fans in skin tight Wednesday shirts. Ah , you `ve met our lass then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, robowl4life said: Only on Owlstalk can a thread about chuffin Harribo sweets turn into a slagging match on sports nutrition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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