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2 minutes ago, Costello 77 said:

£4.50 at my local.. I found reading my council tax bill more affective.

 

Paying it gives you full bowel elimination & cleanse that lasts a year. 

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40 minutes ago, wilyfox said:

 

Err, we signed him following release from Everton when he was 19..

 

I didn’t know that. Just read up, he captained their youth team to 2 Premier league titles. Clearly has the leadership quality as well as natural ability. Hopefully Bruce can bring him along further next season!

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1 hour ago, Kanye West said:

Thorniley never looked out of place when he played next season, should be pushing for a first team spot.

Can I have the weekend lottery numbers pal ?  WTF:

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Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes.  Height, pace, strength.

 

Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce.

 

Therefore, whilst I think Thorniley will have a professional career, I am struggling to see that being at Championship level or above.

 

He has certainly not yet shown that he is ready to be a first team regular at Championship level.  Also, this isn’t some young pup, he’s 23 in November.

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8 hours ago, George said:

Burton O'Brien was raved about as the best player in the SPL outside the Old Firm. He simply wasn't good enough for the Championship. McLean and JP had done it in England already. Bullen was ok.  To be fair to Donnelly and O''Donnell it was more fitness than ability that was the problem and they weren't the only ones.

 

Burton O’Brien? No he wasn’t. You’ve just made that up. And with Donnelly it was absolutely to do with lack of ability as to why he was poor. He was bang average in Scotland too. 

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4 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes.  Height, pace, strength.

 

Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce.

 

Therefore, whilst I think Thorniley will have a professional career, I am struggling to see that being at Championship level or above.

 

He has certainly not yet shown that he is ready to be a first team regular at Championship level.  Also, this isn’t some young pup, he’s 23 in November.

He does have strength, and excellent timing, and alongside a dominant centre back, he can thrive. With a tall defensive midfielder in front, and enough height throughout the side, we should be able to stand up to the most physical bombardment

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Just now, gurujuan said:

He does have strength, and excellent timing, and alongside a dominant centre back, he can thrive. With a tall defensive midfielder in front, and enough height throughout the side, we should be able to stand up to the most physical bombardment

We’ll agree to disagree.

 

And the fact you think he needs protecting from his other centre back and a defensive midfielder proves you’re not really feeling it either.

 

i hope I’m wrong but I suspect in 5 years, we’ll look back and see a steady League One or Two centre back.

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22 hours ago, SmokieOwl36-0 said:

He was at Newcastle a couple of seasons back before going to Kilmarnock. I’ve asked Killie fans there thoughts on the lad so will post when I get replies. 

 

He’s decent but there are better young centre backs in the SPFL however they will be out of our price range. Findlay has been a very good player in a Killie team that has punched way above its weight this season. 

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4 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

We’ll agree to disagree.

 

And the fact you think he needs protecting from his other centre back and a defensive midfielder proves you’re not really feeling it either.

 

i hope I’m wrong but I suspect in 5 years, we’ll look back and see a steady League One or Two centre back.

No I don’t see him as a weak link at all, far from it. I just feel we need a collective resilience to combat opponents 

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18 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes.  Height, pace, strength.

 

Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce.

 

Therefore, whilst I think Thorniley will have a professional career, I am struggling to see that being at Championship level or above.

 

He has certainly not yet shown that he is ready to be a first team regular at Championship level.  Also, this isn’t some young pup, he’s 23 in November.

He's got great strength and can read the game...he defends well and doesn't give much away in the air... I strongly disagree with your post ..he's 22 and was blooded into a nightmare with what was going on.

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26 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes.  Height, pace, strength.

 

Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce.

 

 

 

you mean like tom lees ? Who most people on here cream themselves over

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In regards to Thorniley and Penney for that matter. Both did well without having Westwood behind them and they were both in an unhappy, split squad, negative regime with Jos at the helm. I'm sure both can thrive under Bruce. 

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2 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said:

In regards to Thorniley and Penney for that matter. Both did well without having Westwood behind them and they were both in an unhappy, split squad, negative regime with Jos at the helm. I'm sure both can thrive under Bruce. 

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47 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes.  Height, pace, strength.

 

Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce.

 

Therefore, whilst I think Thorniley will have a professional career, I am struggling to see that being at Championship level or above.

 

He has certainly not yet shown that he is ready to be a first team regular at Championship level.  Also, this isn’t some young pup, he’s 23 in November.

 

Couldn’t disagree more, the lad is strong as an ox and his runs in the side for me have shown he’s more than capable of been a regular at this level 

 

Thorniley is a good player 

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He is a good player, and that's why I'm surprised we're in for two more left-sided centre-halves. We only really need one good one to lead with Thorniley his cover and competition. 

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Has Westwood signed yet? 

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Thorniley started to really thrive last season. Brought the ball out from the back confidently. Was surprised Bruce didn’t give him a game in the last couple of fixtures.

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12 minutes ago, wilyfox said:

He is a good player, and that's why I'm surprised we're in for two more left-sided centre-halves. We only really need one good one to lead with Thorniley his cover and competition. 

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1 hour ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes.  Height, pace, strength.

 

Taller than George Baldock for pigs, but I see what your saying, has he got the attributes to a be a CB....or is he good enough for LB. We shall see. 

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Has Chansiri signed Hillsborough Stadium yet?

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