bladeshater Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Suzuki_San said: I've no idea why Thorniley was dropped. He learnt so quickly, how to push and pull really experienced strikers....how to be cute, shepherd balls out well, when to play it, when to leather it, he's good in the air, doesn't seem to get nervous/overwhelmed. Not afraid to say his piece. Out of all of our players that came through, he is head and shoulders above them all. Why people want him loaned out is baffling. I don't think people want him loaned out but it maybe best for his progression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Suzuki_San said: I've no idea why Thorniley was dropped. He learnt so quickly, how to push and pull really experienced strikers....how to be cute, shepherd balls out well, when to play it, when to leather it, he's good in the air, doesn't seem to get nervous/overwhelmed. Not afraid to say his piece. Out of all of our players that came through, he is head and shoulders above them all. Why people want him loaned out is baffling. I completely agree. He’s an excellent young player. He’s not blessed with pace, height or particularly fantastic on the ball but he’s just a bloody good defender. No issues been in our staring eleven against a good team in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, s6 owl said: Thorniley is the best thing to come out of our academy in years. Err, we signed him following release from Everton when he was 19.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1981 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Just now, bladeshater said: I don't think people want him loaned out but it maybe best for his progression Quite possibly. It seems to me SB is looking to bring in leaders. Quite of the players that we have been linked with have been or are captains or their current / past team. I think SB will have noticed that we are very quiet vocally as a team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 At the risk of becoming a broken record - Thorniley has the potential to be our future captain. The consistency of his performance for a young player has been excellent, he's shown desire and attitude in abundance (remember when he got shoved out at left back and still played well?) and he's only going to get better. We would be absolutely mad to sell him and I'd be very sceptical of loaning him out unless it was to another Championship team with a guarantee of regular game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Suzuki_San said: I've no idea why Thorniley was dropped. He learnt so quickly, how to push and pull really experienced strikers....how to be a cute shepherds balls out well, when to play it, when to leather it, he's good in the air, doesn't seem to get nervous/overwhelmed. Not afraid to say his piece. Out of all of our players that came through, he is head and shoulders above them all. Why people want him loaned out is baffling. Is this a condition ? Like bow legs Pigeon toed Knock Knee'd Maybe Australianism for feeling Crooked ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, StudentOwl said: The decade he spent at Everton certainly gave him a good platform And so it should do what I’m saying is anyone that’s come from the academy isn’t on 30k a week they will be on low wages for a first team squad member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, mansfield_owl03 said: nothing solid coming through yet though Take two of these and go get some rest... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Take two of these and go get some rest... £4.50 at my local.. I found reading my council tax bill more affective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: £4.50 at my local.. I found reading my council tax bill more affective. Paying it gives you full bowel elimination & cleanse that lasts a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastSleepingGiant Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Err, we signed him following release from Everton when he was 19.. I didn’t know that. Just read up, he captained their youth team to 2 Premier league titles. Clearly has the leadership quality as well as natural ability. Hopefully Bruce can bring him along further next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Kanye West said: Thorniley never looked out of place when he played next season, should be pushing for a first team spot. Can I have the weekend lottery numbers pal ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes. Height, pace, strength. Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce. Therefore, whilst I think Thorniley will have a professional career, I am struggling to see that being at Championship level or above. He has certainly not yet shown that he is ready to be a first team regular at Championship level. Also, this isn’t some young pup, he’s 23 in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 8 hours ago, George said: Burton O'Brien was raved about as the best player in the SPL outside the Old Firm. He simply wasn't good enough for the Championship. McLean and JP had done it in England already. Bullen was ok. To be fair to Donnelly and O''Donnell it was more fitness than ability that was the problem and they weren't the only ones. Burton O’Brien? No he wasn’t. You’ve just made that up. And with Donnelly it was absolutely to do with lack of ability as to why he was poor. He was bang average in Scotland too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes. Height, pace, strength. Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce. Therefore, whilst I think Thorniley will have a professional career, I am struggling to see that being at Championship level or above. He has certainly not yet shown that he is ready to be a first team regular at Championship level. Also, this isn’t some young pup, he’s 23 in November. He does have strength, and excellent timing, and alongside a dominant centre back, he can thrive. With a tall defensive midfielder in front, and enough height throughout the side, we should be able to stand up to the most physical bombardment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Just now, gurujuan said: He does have strength, and excellent timing, and alongside a dominant centre back, he can thrive. With a tall defensive midfielder in front, and enough height throughout the side, we should be able to stand up to the most physical bombardment We’ll agree to disagree. And the fact you think he needs protecting from his other centre back and a defensive midfielder proves you’re not really feeling it either. i hope I’m wrong but I suspect in 5 years, we’ll look back and see a steady League One or Two centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 22 hours ago, SmokieOwl36-0 said: He was at Newcastle a couple of seasons back before going to Kilmarnock. I’ve asked Killie fans there thoughts on the lad so will post when I get replies. He’s decent but there are better young centre backs in the SPFL however they will be out of our price range. Findlay has been a very good player in a Killie team that has punched way above its weight this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: We’ll agree to disagree. And the fact you think he needs protecting from his other centre back and a defensive midfielder proves you’re not really feeling it either. i hope I’m wrong but I suspect in 5 years, we’ll look back and see a steady League One or Two centre back. No I don’t see him as a weak link at all, far from it. I just feel we need a collective resilience to combat opponents Edited May 21, 2019 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes. Height, pace, strength. Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce. Therefore, whilst I think Thorniley will have a professional career, I am struggling to see that being at Championship level or above. He has certainly not yet shown that he is ready to be a first team regular at Championship level. Also, this isn’t some young pup, he’s 23 in November. He's got great strength and can read the game...he defends well and doesn't give much away in the air... I strongly disagree with your post ..he's 22 and was blooded into a nightmare with what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: Unfortunately, Thorniley doesn’t have the physical attributes. Height, pace, strength. Whilst the likes of Carragher have proven that it’s possible to reach the top without these attributes, you have to be outstanding and therefore the odds drastically reduce. you mean like tom lees ? Who most people on here cream themselves over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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