swfcGibbo Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I still think we need another quick winger. If Harris takes an injury then there's no outlet. Although it may make sense to bring in another full back and push Odubajo further up the field. Worth mentioning free agents can be signed outside the window too so there's always that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfcGibbo Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Johannes Geis is still a free agent. Played at a high level and commanded some decent fee's. Still only 25 and would fill the Defensive midfield void as/when Hutch is injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: Nixon saying he has heard Chelsea want 4-5 million for Hector. Like I’ve said I just think it’s to much for us to spend, not necessarily because he isn’t worth it but because we have just come out of the embargo and that is a crazy amount to spend on one player. Should accept Norwich's offer for Rhodes, then get Hector in. Hector and some loanees would do. Doesn't make sense to loan Joao out, would rather keep him. If we can sell someone else like Winnall, I'd try and sign Marcus Maddison. May as well utilise the loan market to get some extra quality, some more pace like Moses and Harris would be smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said: Should accept Norwich's offer for Rhodes, then get Hector in. Hector and some loanees would do. Doesn't make sense to loan Joao out, would rather keep him. If we can sell someone else like Winnall, I'd try and sign Marcus Maddison. May as well utilise the loan market to get some extra quality, some more pace like Moses and Harris would be smart. But won't the fee we get for Rhodes go straight to boro for the remainder of what we owe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: But won't the fee we get for Rhodes go straight to boro for the remainder of what we owe Just tell them it’s undisclosed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said: Should accept Norwich's offer for Rhodes, then get Hector in. Hector and some loanees would do. Doesn't make sense to loan Joao out, would rather keep him. If we can sell someone else like Winnall, I'd try and sign Marcus Maddison. May as well utilise the loan market to get some extra quality, some more pace like Moses and Harris would be smart. Last I heard/read they wanted him for free, hardly an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, bladeshater said: But won't the fee we get for Rhodes go straight to boro for the remainder of what we owe No. Middlesbrough have received their money for Rhodes. The money we'd "lose" is purely for accounting purposes. So yes, let him go for free we lose a couple of million against FFP/P&S, but that money doesn't go into Boro's pockets. It just disappears into the void or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, DELUDED OWL said: Last I heard/read they wanted him for free, hardly an offer. Read earlier on that they offered £4mill but we want £7mill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, The Night-Owl said: Read earlier on that they offered £4mill but we want £7mill Really, not seen that, maybe worth thinking about then eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, DELUDED OWL said: Really, not seen that, maybe worth thinking about then eh. If true, we should accept it because who else would pay more than that? Doubt we'd receive more than that for a striker who used to bang em in several years ago. It would make more sense than getting rid of or loaning out a younger pacier striker in Joao, whose price tag could increase rather than decline like Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, The Night-Owl said: If true It's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: No. Middlesbrough have received their money for Rhodes. The money we'd "lose" is purely for accounting purposes. So yes, let him go for free we lose a couple of million against FFP/P&S, but that money doesn't go into Boro's pockets. It just disappears into the void or something Cant imagine we paid cash upfront for Rhodes so we will still owe them money for him. But as you say the two are unrelated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Cant imagine we paid cash upfront for Rhodes so we will still owe them money for him. But as you say the two are unrelated. That depends if transfer clauses were met, im sure i read somewhere that the fee was dependent on promotion being achieved, games played ect as are most transfers nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 So like for like. Kieran Lee > John Swift Barry Bannan > Ryan Woods Sam Hutchinson > ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, full fathom five said: That depends if transfer clauses were met, im sure i read somewhere that the fee was dependent on promotion being achieved, games played ect as are most transfers nowadays. I meant more we wouldn't have handed them 7m say in one go we would have staggered that over years. So we may still owe them money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, pazowl55 said: I meant more we wouldn't have handed them 7m say in one go we would have staggered that over years. So we may still owe them money for him. We may, we may not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Nixon saying he has heard Chelsea want 4-5 million for Hector. Like I’ve said I just think it’s to much for us to spend, not necessarily because he isn’t worth it but because we have just come out of the embargo and that is a crazy amount to spend on one player. £4m would be a good deal TBH. Amortized over a 4 year contract re FFP should be within our reach....paid for by the Bruce compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Leicester being quoted £75 million for Nathan Ake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: Leicester being quoted £75 million for Nathan Ake I know it would have been difficult but they should have just said its 150m for Maguire or nothing. Because they are gonna get proper ripped off for a replacement paying about 60m for a player half as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, bladeshater said: But won't the fee we get for Rhodes go straight to boro for the remainder of what we owe No we bought Rhodes from Boro two years ago and paid them for the player then. Then in the accounts his fee is released over the length of his contract aka £2m a season + wages. Any money we get in for him does not go to Boro unless they allowed us to pay for Rhodes over 4 years which would be the first deal in history to do this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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