jp1981 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, oldishowl said: Even “normal “ fans can be angry/ disappointed about this. Why ? Because we finally think we have a decent manager who can help us progress We are at a very key point of the season where sorting signings (window very short), organising tactics and finding our best team has to be sorted in the next 3 weeks We will probably be back to square one with any signings who were coming here because Bruce was here, possibly Hector. Bruce normally travels with his entourage. Assistants, recruitment staff and fitness people. Might lose all them as well and need to start afresh In short even if we got another good manager within a week , which isn’t easy, it would set us back a lot for the coming season. These things happen, but the timing ain’t good. Don't get me wrong I get what you are saying and agree with a lot of what you are saying. Me personally just wouldn't begrudge anyone regardless of it being a player or in this case SB of playing for or managing the club they support or in the case of a player going to another club to get a better deal. I'm just not that sort of person. This is why although i would be disappointed with SB leaving and our pre season as you mention being put back, I wouldn't be bitter because i understand this is what happens, be that in football or in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Oh Im generally a c*nt, partly due to mental health and partly because I hate everyone Honestly mate, I didn't particulary want Bruce in the first place, partly because I do see him as an "old school manager" in the vein of Hughes/Pulis, who doesn't particularly play a good brand of football, and who needs cash to do anything, which, we don't really have, and 2 because of his history of a lack of loyalty. It's difficult to say if I would be miffed, I guess I would, but not for the finishing position, but for the fact that in my view like I say, he struggles without cash, whch we don't have, so I would still think it was the wrong appointment. That said, When he was appointed I fully decided to give him a chance, and my backing, and was quite happy with what he had done so far, I guess that is why it annoys me even more My kinda guy. We'd be mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, wilyfox said: My kinda guy. We'd be mates. You mean we aren't? After all these years? I'd be hurt if I cared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, marcx666 said: You mean we aren't? After all these years? I'd be hurt if I cared Til now it's been unofficial, like a clause in Bruce's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1981 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Oh Im generally a c*nt, partly due to mental health and partly because I hate everyone Honestly mate, I didn't particulary want Bruce in the first place, partly because I do see him as an "old school manager" in the vein of Hughes/Pulis, who doesn't particularly play a good brand of football, and who needs cash to do anything, which, we don't really have, and 2 because of his history of a lack of loyalty. It's difficult to say if I would be miffed, I guess I would, but not for the finishing position, but for the fact that in my view like I say, he struggles without cash, whch we don't have, so I would still think it was the wrong appointment. That said, When he was appointed I fully decided to give him a chance, and my backing, and was quite happy with what he had done so far, I guess that is why it annoys me even more Thanks for your honesty. The other side of the coin is, if we get promoted there are no guarantees that DC would want to keep him as manager in the Prem. It is very rare that there is any loyalty in football anymore. Hasn't been for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, jp1981 said: Thanks for your honesty. The other side of the coin is, if we get promoted there are no guarantees that DC would want to keep him as manager in the Prem. It is very rare that there is any loyalty in football anymore. Hasn't been for a long time. See, that's where I disagree with you, I think DC would be loyal, f*ck knows hes shown more loyalty to both players and managers than he should have. In his eyes, its the Wednesday family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Needs sorting quickly, not because there’s any panic about transfers, we’ll get them done anyway, but because all this, will he, won’t he, is creating a toxic atmosphere from which he is unlikely to recover from, if he has to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Smegson Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Thought this was the transfer rumours thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3mps Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Have we announced Harris yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Chelsea sent people home from tour looking to loan them out, anyone we fancy? Chelsea are set for multiple loan departures as eight young players were cut from their pre-season tour to "continue their preparations for the new season". The eight returning to Cobham from Ireland include Lewis Baker, Izzy Brown and Lucas Piazon, as well as Trevoh Chalobah, Dujon Sterling, Ike Ugbo, Conor Gallagher and Marc Guehi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Chelsea sent people home from tour looking to loan them out, anyone we fancy? Chelsea are set for multiple loan departures as eight young players were cut from their pre-season tour to "continue their preparations for the new season". The eight returning to Cobham from Ireland include Lewis Baker, Izzy Brown and Lucas Piazon, as well as Trevoh Chalobah, Dujon Sterling, Ike Ugbo, Conor Gallagher and Marc Guehi. The sooner FIFA change the rules on the size of youth team squads the better, this player farming is totally obscene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said: The sooner FIFA change the rules on the size of youth team squads the better, this player farming is totally obscene. no argument from me, Chelsea loaning out on average 40 odd a season takes the p*ss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Absolutely scandalous what Chelsea do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Feel sorry for those players. Confidence destroyed at a young age. Will never forge a decent career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Chelsea sent people home from tour looking to loan them out, anyone we fancy? Chelsea are set for multiple loan departures as eight young players were cut from their pre-season tour to "continue their preparations for the new season". The eight returning to Cobham from Ireland include Lewis Baker, Izzy Brown and Lucas Piazon, as well as Trevoh Chalobah, Dujon Sterling, Ike Ugbo, Conor Gallagher and Marc Guehi. Happily take Brown, Chalobah, and Piazon. But we're in a bit of turmoil at the moment so we'll probably miss the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Happily take Brown, Chalobah, and Piazon. But we're in a bit of turmoil at the moment so we'll probably miss the boat. Is Piazon not one of those who if they were really any good, someone would have bought them by now, he's gotta be mid 20s now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, marcx666 said: Is Piazon not one of those who if they were really any good, someone would have bought them by now, he's gotta be mid 20s now Thought Piazon was out of contract now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Thought Piazon was out of contract now Doesn't seem to be, and if he is and no one is picking him up, it confirms my thoughts that he just isnt that good. Dudes been on loan so much that if he was really good you would have thought someone would want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, marcx666 said: Doesn't seem to be, and if he is and no one is picking him up, it confirms my thoughts that he just isnt that good. Dudes been on loan so much that if he was really good you would have thought someone would want him Did well at Fulham. I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I wouldn’t mind seeing Izzy Brown here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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