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7 minutes ago, Steve Down South said:

 

 

Really don’t get these comments. Whilst I think it highly unlikely we could sign Onomah on the cheap, if there was a chance then I think it would be excellent business.  He’s only just 22, has the physical attributes we lack right now, is technically sound and I believe more likely to succeed in the Premier League than any of the current squad.

 

If this was summer 2015 I might agree with your suggestion that getting Onomah would be good business. But our ability to spend is much more constrained than it was. We need to spend what we can with much more care. 

 

Whilst every signing has an element of risk, spending millions on a player that might succeed in the premier league, whilst the evidence in our own backyard suggests he might not even succeed at championship level, would be somewhat wasteful.

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29 minutes ago, owlszone said:

How can we talk about signing Hector for 5mil and be ok about it? 

 

Too much for me. 1.5/2mil more realistic under our current situation...

 

We’ll see. Another CB is needed though

For me 5 million, is far to much for hector. 

 

We just arnt in that type of market.

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2 minutes ago, Tamworthowl said:

 

If this was summer 2015 I might agree with your suggestion that getting Onomah would be good business. But our ability to spend is much more constrained than it was. We need to spend what we can with much more care. 

 

Whilst every signing has an element of risk, spending millions on a player that might succeed in the premier league, whilst the evidence in our own backyard suggests he might not even succeed at championship level, would be somewhat wasteful.

I think it would all depend on the fee. Certainly wouldn’t advocate blowing the budget on him, but if there was any chance of a good deal (not talking millions here) then I think that’s a risk worth taking.

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Wouldn't pay that much for Hector.

 

As good as he was, we've shown we can get decent loans in that position with him and Venancio previously. 

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I was so disappointed with Onomah last season. Genuinely expected him to be a shining light in our side when we signed him, and by the end of the season I was left wondering what his strengths were, never mind anything else.

 

That said... he was thrown under the bus by Luhukay. I can't remember the game it was, but he was publicly lambasted after a poor team display, despite actually playing reasonably well in that particular game. From that moment on, he was a player playing with no confidence whatsoever, and it showed. 

 

Bruce is a long time, known admirer. He had Onomah for a full season, and used him a lot...and that was as a 20 year old in a Villa side that pushing for promotion under immense pressure. And lets be honest here...if Onomah is available for a reasonable fee...he's a player who's a great age, with a good, solid reputation who could be worth a lot of money in a year or two, if he performs at this level. 

 

Almost universally, we all agree we need legs and power in central areas. Onomah provides that. If we do end up signing Onomah, I'd be willing to write last season off (based on poor man management by Luhukay, and two lengthy injuries), and I'd like to see him in a well-balanced, organised side under a manager that puts faith in him. 

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Hector for £5M is probably a bit warm for us. Maybe we would have gone for that when we were flush but I think that's not the price range we are shopping in.

 

Personally I'd like him back here but £3M is more like what he's worth, as a sweetener they can have a bonus clause if we get promoted next year, say £500K. If not let's move on. He's not really clicked with any other team he's been loaned to, If Chelsea can get £5M elsewhere good luck to them.

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32 minutes ago, prowl said:

Hector for £5M is probably a bit warm for us. Maybe we would have gone for that when we were flush but I think that's not the price range we are shopping in.

 

Personally I'd like him back here but £3M is more like what he's worth, as a sweetener they can have a bonus clause if we get promoted next year, say £500K. If not let's move on. He's not really clicked with any other team he's been loaned to, If Chelsea can get £5M elsewhere good luck to them.

 

Not sure Hector at £5m makes much sense at all. There are definitely good CBs out there that we could get for less than half that and I'd trust Bruce to identify them. 

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11 hours ago, pazowl55 said:

Our expectations were adjusted and we didn't expect promotion. 

That changed when a new chairman came in and promised us promotion with in three years.

Utter testicles no promises were made

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There's a difference between Hector being worth £5million and it making sense for us to spend £5million on him. 

 

He's clearly worth at least £5million given the season he has just had and his age and pedigree.  People said the same thing about Reach and he proved his worth and that was years ago and since then the transfer market and prices have continued to rise sharply. 

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20 minutes ago, glosowl said:

Utter testicles no promises were made

Its amazing innit,how one statement can be so "misqouted" by so many.......................................baffling.

(Not exclusive to just this place).

Edited by DELUDED OWL
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3 hours ago, bedfordowl said:

In today’s market I’d say 5m was fair. 

 

 

Disagree, £3m max otherwise move on

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39 minutes ago, meggoisgod said:

Disagree, £3m max otherwise move on

Even thats way above us,lets face it hes gunna have to be peanuts & take a wages haircut to move here,pretty sure chelski will know were upto our necks in grief,rests up to Hector,much as id REALLY love to have big Hector here,hes not the only decent CB on planet earth waiting for a club,we just need to find him

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3 hours ago, Steve Down South said:

 

 

Really don’t get these comments. Whilst I think it highly unlikely we could sign Onomah on the cheap, if there was a chance then I think it would be excellent business.  He’s only just 22, has the physical attributes we lack right now, is technically sound and I believe more likely to succeed in the Premier League than any of the current squad.

I dont understand why people are championing actually signing Onomah.His loan spells have been underwhelming to say the least. His attitude is questionable what does he actually bring. If he has so much potential why are Spurs happy for him to go ?.

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£5mil for Hector is too much for us, but may not be for a club with a parachute full money 

 

Arsenal pay 10x as much for worse CBs 

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4 hours ago, glosowl said:

Utter testicles no promises were made

 

4 hours ago, DELUDED OWL said:

Its amazing innit,how one statement can be so "misqouted" by so many.......................................baffling.

(Not exclusive to just this place).

To be fair I do retract the statement a few posts down and admit I shouldn't have used the word promise.

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3 hours ago, legendaryswan said:

Even thats way above us,lets face it hes gunna have to be peanuts & take a wages haircut to move here,pretty sure chelski will know were upto our necks in grief,rests up to Hector,much as id REALLY love to have big Hector here,hes not the only decent CB on planet earth waiting for a club,we just need to find him

 

We ain’t upto our necks in grief, were upto our necks in red tape from potential EFL rules that they seem to make up as they go along 

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3 hours ago, ZicoSterland2 said:

I dont understand why people are championing actually signing Onomah.His loan spells have been underwhelming to say the least. His attitude is questionable what does he actually bring. If he has so much potential why are Spurs happy for him to go ?.

A player with potential to us is a bit different to a player with potential to Spurs. 

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59 minutes ago, Royal_D said:

 

We ain’t upto our necks in grief, were upto our necks in red tape from potential EFL rules that they seem to make up as they go along 

 

Having to flog the ground to avoid a points deduction seems like grief to me. Call it red tape if it makes you feel better but grief seems pretty appropriate.

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1 hour ago, flo said:

A player with potential to us is a bit different to a player with potential to Spurs. 

Some on here stating we will make millions on his future potential and is premier league quality. If you see that you must be watching a different player to me. I think he has shown very little whilst here. Another Matias type poor effort living on supposed potential and was out injured for long periods. Thought we had our fill of those type of players as it has proved very costly in recent times.

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Our player of the season not worth £5m, so what does that do to the value of the rest of our team?!

 

joao touted as being worth £4m+, forestieri £8m+ and reach £10m+ But hector seemingly not worth a carrot now 

 

Mind blowing on here at times. 

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