StudentOwl Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, The Dukeries Owl said: Liverpool persevered with Henderson when people said he was a flop, they're not doing bad lately. Maybe we just have impatient chairmen, managers and fans who demand instant gratification instead of year on year improvement. Henderson is a limited footballer who has the desire to run through brick walls for his team and the professionalism and personality to be a leader on the pitch. Onomah is a technically proficient footballer with no outward desire to run through brick walls for his team and certainly appears to lack leadership on the pitch (what he's like behind the scenes, who knows). You can coach the football into a footballer, you can't coach the personality into the person. You might as well be comparing apples to oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 He never promised promotion. He said he wanted to achieve it by the anniversary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 hours ago, pazowl55 said: Our expectations were adjusted and we didn't expect promotion. That changed when a new chairman came in and promised us promotion with in three years. He didn't promise promotion, he did say he was setting his sights on getting us promoted by 2017. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: He never promised promotion. He said he wanted to achieve it by the anniversary. Correct. It seems our Thai chairman has a better grasp of English than many of our supporters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 DC 02/04/2015 New Sheffield Wednesday owner Dejphon Chansiri wants the Championship club to gain promotion to the Premier League within the next two years. The Thai businessman officially took over the club from Milan Mandaric on Monday after a deal worth £37.5m. The Owls, currently 10th in the table, celebrate their 150th anniversary in 2017 and Chansiri is hopeful they can be in the top division by then. He told BBC Radio Sheffield: "We want to be back for our anniversary." Chansiri added: "We will do whatever is appropriate to invest in the club to get them to the Premier League." DC. 16/01/2019 “Many people have suggested that I invested the amount of money I did – and continue to do – in order to achieve promotion to the Premier League. But this is not correct. I invested these sums to stay in the Championship, to ensure we would have the best chance of avoiding relegation. If promotion came, then great, but building from the bottom gave us the best opportunity of getting to the top.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, Walt said: DC 02/04/2015 New Sheffield Wednesday owner Dejphon Chansiri wants the Championship club to gain promotion to the Premier League within the next two years. The Thai businessman officially took over the club from Milan Mandaric on Monday after a deal worth £37.5m. The Owls, currently 10th in the table, celebrate their 150th anniversary in 2017 and Chansiri is hopeful they can be in the top division by then. He told BBC Radio Sheffield: "We want to be back for our anniversary." Chansiri added: "We will do whatever is appropriate to invest in the club to get them to the Premier League." DC. 16/01/2019 “Many people have suggested that I invested the amount of money I did – and continue to do – in order to achieve promotion to the Premier League. But this is not correct. I invested these sums to stay in the Championship, to ensure we would have the best chance of avoiding relegation. If promotion came, then great, but building from the bottom gave us the best opportunity of getting to the top.” I think the 2019 quote is more the realistic one. Basically, in 2015 he came in and knew the squad had problems but he's not going to give interviews saying we're going to be fighting relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Re Onomah……….everytime I saw him play for us I came to the same conclusion , and that is , his achievements are limited by his efforts, not his ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Didnt get as much as I would have liked last season but seen Onomah afew times, liked how effortless it was for him to cover ground but he needs to get stuck in more. As sad as it sounds, I doubt he would have made the pigs starting 11, they fought for eachother on a different level. But at the same time, I think Onomah is capable of developing into a Premier League player. No more than 3m Brucey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Walt said: DC 02/04/2015 New Sheffield Wednesday owner Dejphon Chansiri wants the Championship club to gain promotion to the Premier League within the next two years. The Thai businessman officially took over the club from Milan Mandaric on Monday after a deal worth £37.5m. The Owls, currently 10th in the table, celebrate their 150th anniversary in 2017 and Chansiri is hopeful they can be in the top division by then. He told BBC Radio Sheffield: "We want to be back for our anniversary." Chansiri added: "We will do whatever is appropriate to invest in the club to get them to the Premier League." DC. 16/01/2019 “Many people have suggested that I invested the amount of money I did – and continue to do – in order to achieve promotion to the Premier League. But this is not correct. I invested these sums to stay in the Championship, to ensure we would have the best chance of avoiding relegation. If promotion came, then great, but building from the bottom gave us the best opportunity of getting to the top.” These quotes prove he never promised it. He says he "wants" us to be there by our anniversary (no promise). He then says that we'll do "whatever it takes to get there", but doesn't put a timescale on it... indeed, "whatever it takes" could well include selling our stadium for cash if we get a couple of years past our anniversary and still haven't made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeadonowl Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, bigash_swfc said: Didnt get as much as I would have liked last season but seen Onomah afew times, liked how effortless it was for him to cover ground but he needs to get stuck in more. As sad as it sounds, I doubt he would have made the pigs starting 11, they fought for eachother on a different level. But at the same time, I think Onomah is capable of developing into a Premier League player. No more than 3m Brucey. With the reduced or little budget we have I’d be seriously worried if we spent 3m on Onomah Was no more than a passenger for most of last season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve Down South said: I know where you’re coming from, but most of us have been round the block enough times to realise we cannot rely on ‘promises’ - sport just doesn’t work like that. 1 hour ago, Sham67 said: Correct. It seems our Thai chairman has a better grasp of English than many of our supporters. 1 hour ago, Hookowl said: He didn't promise promotion, he did say he was setting his sights on getting us promoted by 2017. Promised not the right word to have used. I meant more he came in with money and built up the expectations of the supports so now we crave promotion and almost expect it rather them before when we just hoped for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, yeadonowl said: With the reduced or little budget we have I’d be seriously worried if we spent 3m on Onomah Was no more than a passenger for most of last season I agree with most posts on Onomah: disappointing at best. Talented, but all to infrequently shows it. Id be concerned if we spent any more than a nominal sum. Even £350k is pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 You can’t promise promotion and unless he didnt put the funds in (he did), it’s unfair to use that against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basegreenowl Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 We need a back up of sorts to Bannan. Competition in all parts of the team. I reckon it will not be too much if it happens. I trust Steve Bruce. Track record suggests trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 I still wouldn't be surprised if we signed Diame now he's a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodys Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 3 hours ago, yeadonowl said: With the reduced or little budget we have I’d be seriously worried if we spent 3m on Onomah Was no more than a passenger for most of last season Also gave away needless expensive fouls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob 13 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Chelsea want £5 mill for hector want Izzy Brown on loan jake Bidwell on a free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 He can stay there for 5m. They’ve loaned him out every year and he’s only got one left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Just now, Bluesteel said: He can stay there for 5m. They’ve loaned him out every year and he’s only got one left. 5 million for Hector is a good price regardless of how longs on his contract. It won’t be 5 million up front. More like 2 million then the rest to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, jimbob 13 said: Chelsea want £5 mill for hector want Izzy Brown on loan jake Bidwell on a free ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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