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10 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

I have always wondered if Bannan could be used in a role similar to the way Bruce used to use Snodgrass.

 

To me he’s a David or Bernardo Silva type. Clever, good on the ball, tricky..

Can you imagine Pep using one of those how we use Bannan 

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1 hour ago, ZicoSterland2 said:

We have too many midfielders of similar quality. Forestieri and Bannan in my opinion only 1 should play. What we need is a John Sheridan to thread those passes. For all Bannans huffing and puffing his assist count is fairly low and he tends to dwell on the ball. Reach outscores and assists him. If Lee can comeback in fit then our midfield is far more mobile with Hutchinson mopping up. Speed of movement and thought is what is required. Joa must be at last chance saloon and he needs competition. If we can find a 20 goal pacey forward our prayers would be answered.

Are you on crack? Bannan got more than 10 assists last season and some were absolute beauts like Boro away and Brentford at home. Low assist count my arse!!

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31 minutes ago, IstillhateSteveBould said:

 

Yes. But it’s not where to get the best out of him in my opinion. He would score and assist far more if he was stripped of that role and played higher up the pitch.

Unfortunately we have too many players who don't take responsibility and want to offload to Bannan as soon as possible. Joey for one is always looking for an easy short pass sideways or back, hardly ever forward.

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54 minutes ago, IstillhateSteveBould said:

 

The main issue with Bannan is that when he plays centrally, he plays way too deep. We need him affecting the game higher up. 

 

442 doesn’t really allow that unless he plays as he did in Carlos’s first season, as a narrow left sided midfielder. 

 

Even 4231 restricts him as he inevitably ends up as one of the 2 holding midfielders

This^^^^^^ 100%

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2 minutes ago, Kagoshimaowl said:

Are you on crack? Bannan got more than 10 assists last season and some were absolute beauts like Boro away and Brentford at home. Low assist count my arse!!

Yep people make stuff up to fit there point of view.  It's a good job bruce knows what he is doing and thinks he's key to us. Only have to look how much we miss him when he doesn't play!  E.g qpr  last match 

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1 hour ago, ZicoSterland2 said:

We have too many midfielders of similar quality. Forestieri and Bannan in my opinion only 1 should play. What we need is a John Sheridan to thread those passes. For all Bannans huffing and puffing his assist count is fairly low and he tends to dwell on the ball. Reach outscores and assists him. If Lee can comeback in fit then our midfield is far more mobile with Hutchinson mopping up. Speed of movement and thought is what is required. Joa must be at last chance saloon and he needs competition. If we can find a 20 goal pacey forward our prayers would be answered.

 

Bannan was equal 4th in the Championship assist list with 11 assists, Reach was equal 20th with 7 assists.

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Just now, Shiregreenowl 80 said:

Yep people make stuff up to fit there point of view.  It's a good job bruce knows what he is doing and thinks he's key to us. Only have to look how much we miss him when he doesn't play!  E.g qpr  last match 

I agree. I hope Bruce has a word with him about all the unnecessary bookings he has picked up this season that led to this scenario. Imagine the situation had we reached the play-offs and Bannan picked up another booking, say in the first leg of the semi, thus leading to a three match ban.

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15 minutes ago, IstillhateSteveBould said:

 

To me he’s a David or Bernardo Silva type. Clever, good on the ball, tricky..

Can you imagine Pep using one of those how we use Bannan 

Silva and De Bryne both similar types and both play centrally to be fair. Not as Deep mind.

 

I just wonder if he is thinking of having him floating on the left a bit more like Carlos used to. 

If Morsy comes in and with Lee coming back maybe an opportunity to try getting him further up the pitch. Even if it's at the top of a diamond midfield.

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47 minutes ago, IstillhateSteveBould said:

 

Yes. But it’s not where to get the best out of him in my opinion. He would score and assist far more if he was stripped of that role and played higher up the pitch.

Ok, so who out of our current crop would you employ in the deep playmaker role?

 

Bannan is the absolute key to how we play. If you listen to most opposition managers pre-match press conferences the player they mention is Bannan. ''We have to stop Bannan'' 'Bannan is key' etc.

 

He is integral to our team and makes us 'tick' yes he plays deep but that's because he's the player who gets the ball off the back 4 to get us going.

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Anybody doubting BB's contribution obviously weren't at the QPR game.

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44 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

I have always wondered if Bannan could be used in a role similar to the way Bruce used to use Snodgrass.

As the biggest čočkend in football? 

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The biggest problem with our midfield is, neither Bannan nor Hutchinson are suited to playing in a two. In theory, Hutchinson sits deep, in front of the back four, and we want Bannan playing further forward. This leaves too big a space between the two of them, so consequently, Bannan drops deep so he can be nearer to Hutchinson. This means that we are starting attacks from the edge of our own box. Bannan is capable of hitting a long pass to release the front players, but Fletcher is hardly going to be able to run in behind, even if he reads the pass. If we want just the two in midfield, both Hutchinson and Bannan will be redundant in that set up. We also need more pace and guile up front, to create the movement ahead, that a player like Bannan needs

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The people who don't rate Bannan seem to be the ones who don't rate Reach either. Madness.

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Peterborough United have confirmed the signing of Bolton Wanderers defender Mark Beevers on a three-year contract.

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As a team we tend to play far too deep . Against better sides we get penned in with the only outlet being a long ball. Normally this loses possession.

 

Bannan doesn’t help this. Because he can’t win the physical battles further up the pitch, he drops deeper and because he is our main link player the team end up deeper.

 

I am not surprised Bruce appears to be looking to sign some pacy fullbacks who get up and down and carry the ball. This is an easy way to get further up the pitch.

 

For me we need to go 433. Not 4231.

 

Without further signings Hutch would play deep in a three. However not like he did under Carlos which was too deep playing footsie with the centre halves. This could also be Morsy.

 

Bannan and another play in a two in front of Hutch and have to take responsibility for getting us forward. If they drop deep or keep passing it back then we will struggle and this will be a big test for Bannan. Watch Grealish and McGinn at Villa, they always carry the ball or pass forward.

 

We then need to sort a front 3 from our myriad of options or sell and bring in some alternatives. 

 

Easy this game!

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I think we are going to be very surprised by the people coming in. Higher level than we expected. Not ITK, I am not even ITK in my own house, just a feeling. 

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3 hours ago, ZicoSterland2 said:

We have too many midfielders of similar quality. Forestieri and Bannan in my opinion only 1 should play. What we need is a John Sheridan to thread those passes. For all Bannans huffing and puffing his assist count is fairly low and he tends to dwell on the ball. Reach outscores and assists him. If Lee can comeback in fit then our midfield is far more mobile with Hutchinson mopping up. Speed of movement and thought is what is required. Joa must be at last chance saloon and he needs competition. If we can find a 20 goal pacey forward our prayers would be answered.

 

If only any of that was true it would be a good point. 

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We get 'penned in' when we have no pacy counter attack outlet, for Bannan (as our only passing CM) to pick out 

 

For example, look at the games when we had Reach & Boyd as wide players ... Brunt had JJ on the opposite side 

 

Regardless of individual abilities, we play better when we have at least one of Fernando, Joao, Matias, Aarons 

 

 

Anyway, have we signed owt? 

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1 hour ago, Sham67 said:

Anybody doubting BB's contribution obviously weren't at the QPR game.

The qpr game can't be used as a yardstick.

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