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Whilst I get the basics of FFP I can't say I really understand.

Could someone give a simplified version?

I get there are limits and we've spent beyond what we should, which begs the question how come we

can afford these loanees ?

(Pleased as I am to see them)

When will any embargo start and end ?

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We can spend what we like no restrictions at the moment. 

But the reason you have seen Bruce go after Lazaar and Aarons and not Mings and Murphy is because FFP is about to grab us by the balls and squeeze very tight.

 

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Ask Room0035 and Sonny, they spent all yesterday arguing about it lol

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6 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

We can spend what we like no restrictions at the moment. 

But the reason you have seen Bruce go after Lazaar and Aarons and not Mings and Murphy is because FFP is about to grab us by the balls and squeeze very tight.

 

Or because they are not has-beens and injury prone??

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4 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said:

Or because they are not has-beens and injury prone??

To be fair, Aarons is generally always injured. His hamstrings are made of wet tissue paper

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2 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said:

Or because they are not has-beens and injury prone??

Best Bruce could get with money available I would image and wanted some pace. Recon most of the budget went on Iorfa.

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I'm just interested to what extent we have  breached FFP and taking into account yesterday's dealings what penalties do we face ?

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5 minutes ago, Rhubarb n Custard said:

I'm just interested to what extent we have  breached FFP and taking into account yesterday's dealings what penalties do we face ?

Well if the Iorfa fee is the reported 500k, then that will be covered by the money from the chelsea game, and I can't see any of the 3 being on massive wages, nor us paying much of the wages for the 2 lads from Newcastle as they seemed to just want to get them out. So, I'd guess we are as screwed as we were before yesterday, but no more.

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We have around 14 players out of contract some are big wages, once they are not renewed we will be well below ffp anyway

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But how does it relate to Profit and Sustainability?

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Birmingham did not want to sell Adams as they could not get anyone in as they are under the dreaded embargo.Are we just getting people in while we still can?

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i can see merits in avoiding financial mismanagement of clubs

but specifically championship wise it seems to me the whole thing works as a glass ceiling for championship clubs the parachute help  is in effect a totally unfair leg up to getting back 

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5 minutes ago, stocksyuto said:

We have around 14 players out of contract some are big wages, once they are not renewed we will be well below ffp anyway

That's for the following year though. won't count for the figures we gotta come up with for this season.

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I can see P&S rules changing very shortly, the EFL has to do something. As it will soon be half the championship in an embargo unable to sign anyone. 

 

Since P&S was reinvented, wages & transfers in the championship has jumped 10 fold.

 

it needs change and a complete overhaul as it is currently a joke. 

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47 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said:

Or because they are not has-beens and injury prone??

 

To be completely fair - based on both players records to date - they're 'never beens'

 

Time will tell

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11 minutes ago, Markowski77 said:

I can see P&S rules changing very shortly, the EFL has to do something. As it will soon be half the championship in an embargo unable to sign anyone. 

 

Since P&S was reinvented, wages & transfers in the championship has jumped 10 fold.

 

it needs change and a complete overhaul as it is currently a joke. 

 

The first EFL FFP rules started in 2012 and the new P&S rules only came into effect from Season 2016/17

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16 minutes ago, Markowski77 said:

I can see P&S rules changing very shortly, the EFL has to do something. As it will soon be half the championship in an embargo unable to sign anyone. 

 

Since P&S was reinvented, wages & transfers in the championship has jumped 10 fold.

 

it needs change and a complete overhaul as it is currently a joke. 

I do hope so not just for our sakes.

Seems unfair that clubs like ours that have been out of the top tier for many years do not have the parachute cash the relegated teams do.

Clubs like ours are otherwise at a significant disadvantage.

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22 minutes ago, Markowski77 said:

I can see P&S rules changing very shortly, the EFL has to do something. As it will soon be half the championship in an embargo unable to sign anyone. 

 

Since P&S was reinvented, wages & transfers in the championship has jumped 10 fold.

 

it needs change and a complete overhaul as it is currently a joke. 

What makes you think that Mark?

I hope you are right, but Ive seen nowt to intimate it will be changing, that it needs changing is hardly the question....

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