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15 hours ago, Beholder said:

Are you not aware of Joao's goals or the club this season? . 

Joao has scored 8 goals , yeah I, aware. He’s also very erratic and better coming off the bench . Why does there always have to another agenda or wise crack . Winnall is a decent player and imo should be given a chance . 

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Really not a Nuhiu fan myself but the lad is always fit & available and he offers something that not many other teams have. 

Winnall is not the answer, he was a panic buy anyway and is still coming back from injury anyway. Send him out to get games and hopefully a £1m fee in the summer.

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1 hour ago, james o connor said:

Joao has scored 8 goals , yeah I, aware. He’s also very erratic and better coming off the bench . Why does there always have to another agenda or wise crack . Winnall is a decent player and imo should be given a chance . 

Well your comment that none of our strikers score other than Winnall is untrue, hence the reply. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Beholder said:

Well your comment that none of our strikers score other than Winnall is untrue, hence the reply. 

 

Right , I’ll start again . 

 

Why would the club club want to go rid of winnal as the only natural scorer we have , apart from joao who has scored 8 this season which is a decent enough return , however sometimes he’s erratic and better off the bench , other than joao our only natural goal scorer ... there 

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18 hours ago, striker said:

Maybe that's what Steve and Stephen have been doing on his behalf. 

 

We've plenty of non scoring forwards, but for potential flaws in his all round game, Winnall is a goalscorer and I'd be a bit disappointed to see him go elsewhere. Problem is, we don't seem to want to play 2 up front and Joao and FF better in those wide attacking roles and he needs gametime in a front 2.

 

we 'have to start playing 2 up, when w e get the staff to do so, i's still like to see winnall get his chance.

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He is our 6th choice striker, when Hooper comes back, he’ll drop to 7th choice If we sign a new centre forward, he’ll be 8th choice

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1 minute ago, gurujuan said:

elHe is our 6th choice striker, when Hooper comes back, he’ll drop to 7th choice If we sign a new centre forward, he’ll be 8th choice

hooper's done (one way or another), nuhiu isn't prolific enough, he maybe kept on by bruce.

bruce for me will play 'longer' than we've seen for some time, thus will need fletcher's ariel challenge ability, I think big dave will need to improve his jumping to get the second slot.

guess it depends finally on where bruce sees us as needing reinforcement, and how much he has to spend. 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, dnhc said:

hooper's done (one way or another), nuhiu isn't prolific enough, he maybe kept on by bruce.

bruce for me will play 'longer' than we've seen for some time, thus will need fletcher's ariel challenge ability, I think big dave will need to improve his jumping to get the second slot.

guess it depends finally on where bruce sees us as needing reinforcement, and how much he has to spend. 

 

 

 

Yep, you’re probably right about Hooper. There are question marks against all of our forwards, and I do believe it is an area Bruce will want to address If he wants to bring another in, currently then Winnall is the most expendable 

Personally, I don’t rate Winnall, I think he’s a fairly basic footballer, but that’s just my opinion

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31 minutes ago, james o connor said:

Right , I’ll start again . 

 

Why would the club club want to go rid of winnal as the only natural scorer we have , apart from joao who has scored 8 this season which is a decent enough return , however sometimes he’s erratic and better off the bench , other than joao our only natural goal scorer ... there 

We need to reduce outgoings. 

 

Also Hooper is coming back which will mean 7 strikers at the club. Winnal, Fletch, Joao, FF, Matias, Hooper, Nuhiu, 

 

They can't all play. 

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One month loan to get his fitness back with someone else I'd be happy with, longer than that and I think we should be keeping him

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I watched Sam many times when at Barnsley, he’s great in the air but that said he had Conor Hourihane pulping balls in to him.

 

i personally would keep him he’s a work horse and knows where the net it 

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28 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

He is our 6th choice striker, when Hooper comes back, he’ll drop to 7th choice If we sign a new centre forward, he’ll be 8th choice

 

You haven’t a clue what order he is until Bruce gets here, he may be behind even all the youth set up, but Bruce might like what he sees and make him first choice

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4 minutes ago, 2roland2 said:

 

You haven’t a clue what order he is until Bruce gets here, he may be behind even all the youth set up, but Bruce might like what he sees and make him first choice

Well it would be too late to get him out then wouldn’t it One presumes, or at least hopes, that Bruce would have used this time while his assistants were running the show, to assess all our options

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He needs to get his fitness back up, before Bruce can decide to keep or sell.

 

A loan move back to the Dingles would be good, let them get him fit and he can help them get promotion.

 

No point just staying and playing in the U23.

 

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5 minutes ago, Big Jack said:

He needs to get his fitness back up, before Bruce can decide to keep or sell.

 

A loan move back to the Dingles would be good, let them get him fit and he can help them get promotion.

 

No point just staying and playing in the U23.

 

 

He may as well get fit with us, we are going nowhere this season. 

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I'm sure I read...

 

Barnsley paid Winnall 4.5k per week.

We quadrupled his pay to 18k per week.

 

So will League One Barnsley, be able to afford his Championship wages. 

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Just now, bigash_swfc said:

I'm sure I read...

 

Barnsley paid Winnall 4.5k per week.

We quadrupled his pay to 18k per week.

 

So will League One Barnsley, be able to afford his Championship wages. 

Spot on. 

 

So the reason Winnal is the most likely leaver is that he is the only one who a championship club would consider and cover his wages. 

 

He has scored goals with Derby and with Barnsley at this level. 

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Would like to see him given a run of games.

 

Foriesteri and Joao either side of a striker. Probably Fletcher at this point but would rather have Winnall on than Nuhiu.

 

Fletcher and Nuhiu out of contract at end of season so would rather we give Winnall a chance.

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4 hours ago, james o connor said:

Joao has scored 8 goals , yeah I, aware. He’s also very erratic and better coming off the bench . Why does there always have to another agenda or wise crack . Winnall is a decent player and imo should be given a chance . 

 

6 of his 8 goals came in games that he started, and the other 2 at Bristol were after he came on as a very early sub and had been on the pitch for an hour before scoring.

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2 hours ago, gurujuan said:

Yep, you’re probably right about Hooper. There are question marks against all of our forwards, and I do believe it is an area Bruce will want to address If he wants to bring another in, currently then Winnall is the most expendable 

Personally, I don’t rate Winnall, I think he’s a fairly basic footballer, but that’s just my opinion

I could see from your post that you didn't rate him, because he's likely the second best scorer amongst our list of forwards.

after hooper who can't play from 30 yards out, fletcher, not fast enough, not enough goals, nuhiu only hits the mark when contract terms are due, joao still lacking consistency, enthusiasm and drive to make that second striker role his.

I think the second striker role will go to a pacey goal scorer, who? I/we don't know.

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