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1 hour ago, lanzaroteowl said:

Half a dozen Blunts came on the Kop either '80 league game or '81 cup game. Bottom corner near the South. Got found out when we scored and didn't remain long enough for the lads in the middle of the Kop to get there.

Paid them back with 3000 on the Shoreham that year.

 

3000 on their Kop, what fantasy nonsense.

 

It will be 4000 the next time the story is told

 

Its amazing how they had 6 and we had 3000

 

And what did this crazy 3000 do?Punch a load of people?

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Only ones I can recall just about taking the Kop over  were Villa, Birmingham, Blunts, all promotion parties. Man Utd seemed to have 3 sides in 1974. Think that was the scariest. Plenty of others have had parts of the Kop without taking control. AS someone said it won't happen again. Remember a night game against Millwall when they stood their ground and caused havoc on the way back to the station. Seems stupid and infantile but that's the way it was then.

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3 hours ago, HIGHERSTATE said:

Owls 2 - Manu 4 in 1989....Fighting everywhere on kop and especially at the bottom left.  Incredible atmosphere. Packed everywhere.

remember that a Man Utd fan actually got punched and went flying through the gate, then they marched them round to the away end. Also remember a couple of Newcastle fans taking a few blows around that time aswell

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6 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said:

 

3000 on their Kop, what fantasy nonsense.

 

It will be 4000 the next time the story is told

 

And what did this crazy 3000 do?Punch a load of people?

 

This is one of the few provable claims out there.

As it was actually caught on TV. I'm sure someone can put up a link.

As the team line ups are superimposed over a shot of the Shoreham you can easily see the delineation of the fans with Wednesday taking up at least the top right quarter

And yes a lot of punching was going on!

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1 minute ago, lanzaroteowl said:

 

This is one of the few provable claims out there.

As it was actually caught on TV. I'm sure someone can put up a link.

As the team line ups are superimposed over a shot of the Shoreham you can easily see the delineation of the fans with Wednesday taking up at least the top right quarter.

 

Lets hope so

 

 

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2 hours ago, ipswichowl said:

Really? Bloke attends a game of football. Gets punched in face by moronic supporters and he's to blame for cheering?

 

 

He was in the South stand ,it was one fan that hit him didn’t hear any cheers but  come on a bit of common sense was all that was required . I’m not going into the rights and wrongs just writing what I saw .

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9 minutes ago, lanzaroteowl said:

 

This is one of the few provable claims out there.

As it was actually caught on TV. I'm sure someone can put up a link.

As the team line ups are superimposed over a shot of the Shoreham you can easily see the delineation of the fans with Wednesday taking up at least the top right quarter

And yes a lot of punching was going on!

I was on the kop that day,didn't see any punching to be honest but then I wasn't looking for it .

We had all the uncovered part of the kop under instructions from the police and the entire john street

Check out on youtube when Mcphale scores for them ,he had to run for miles to find a fan  to celebrate with !!

Think it's fair to say we easily out numbered them in their own ground that day 

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3 hours ago, HIGHERSTATE said:

Owls 2 - Manu 4 in 1989....Fighting everywhere on kop and especially at the bottom left.  Incredible atmosphere. Packed everywhere.

 

Remember that well. Fans spilled pitch side and were simply escorted to the away end!! How times change.

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2 minutes ago, HighworthOwl said:

Im getting slightly worried about Sunday now reading all these!

 

Luckily Chelsea are known as being a friendly, welcoming bunch.

 

If we score at the weekend and I never post again you know why...

Yeah, you'll have been head hunted :ph34r:

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it seemed like virtually every match in the 70's if we were playing anyone who took any number of fans away. Then it would kick off just before the game started. 

Remember Burnley in their (72/73?) promotion season in particular and of course the Man Utd, Birmingham, and Villa games.

Also a few Boro fans stood behind us on the kop once who had the wee wee taken out of them for not really being from Yorkshire  

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It happened...Its gone...Its history....Its different.

I look back on those days with a certain fondness cos I lived through 'em...Same as owt else....

I know it was wrong...I don't need some woolly minded liberal to tell me it was wrong...Same as I don't need someone to tell me Women should be able to vote...or racism is f.ookin' ridiculous

Its simple stories, what happened when....Some fans on here went through it...These things happened...its history.

I mean some Owls fan posts....

"I remember when there was all that fightin' at wherever against whoever etc..and you get 

"ooohh thinkk yer clever then?"

I'll tell you something...

You could not go to Stamford Bridge, Elland Rd, Ayresome park, Sunderland Villa Newcastle..secure in valours station thinkin' 

"ahh this shouldn't happen cos its not summat that me morals allow"

It was devil take the hindmost and you were grateful that the some Owls fans joined in the melee while you f.ookin' legged it...

Take it as an historical record of what football was back then...Use it as a lesson that it should not be repeated..same as a f.ookin' world war or Ricketts....

Some of us went through it....simply cos you had to...simply cos thats what football was at the time we were watching it.

Todays fans don't understand it....and thats honestly fair enough...cos looking back..it was stupid, reckless...even senseless...nobody f.ookin' noticed at the time though...it was simply ...what happened

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3 hours ago, ipswichowl said:

Really? Bloke attends a game of football. Gets punched in face by moronic supporters and he's to blame for cheering?

 

 

Yes. Shouldn't have been there. Don't believe in violence against other fans for no reason but if you're celebrating a goal in someone else's end you are taking the wee wee and deserve a slap. 

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1 minute ago, Nut said:

Yes. Shouldn't have been there. Don't believe in violence against other fans for no reason but if you're celebrating a goal in someone else's end you are taking the wee wee and deserve a slap. 

See I understand what NUT is sayiong there..I would have put it across differently ..but...

Football engenders, excitement, anger, knee jerk reaction etc.....So if you do show extreme enjoyment, at the expense of someone who is undergoing extreme disappointment and anguish...It gets extreme...

Its not f.ookin' rocket science

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2 hours ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said:

 Think it must have been 65 or 66 before games started getting tribal. I was on my Dads shoulders at the back of the Stretford for our 7-2 cup replay win, No trouble. That was 1960. The following season Spurs came to Hillsborough with 11 wins on the trot under their belt. 59,000 in the ground Spurs fans many in number were spread throughout the ground.

Man U were the same spread around the ground. Little pockets of trouble but by enlarge they died down. Our 66 cup run was the first time I recall us as a team being corralled into two areas of the grounds, I say two because there was reserved seating set aside for the posh & elderly fans. A couple of years on the agro, the big players were....

 

Stoke City, Liverpool, Man U, Millwall, Leeds and Chelsea but Chelsea were a little later on the scene. Not forgetting our old friends the blunts. We were stirred occasionally but it was usually in response to events on the pitch or other fans behaviour.   

It was certainly around that time,mid 60s era,that it got more noticeable,the Brighton Beach Mods v Rockers battle in early 1964,seemed to stoke up rivalries,and it carried over to the terraces,the onset of Skinhead culture saw violence grow on the terrace around the middle of the 60s

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I lived through the same times as you Asteener and it was frightening at times and a lot of it was definitely wrong. I'm glad it's much safer at matches now but it's nowhere near as exciting as it used to be in those days. 

 

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