Lomas613 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Right so we could be staring down the barrel of P&S rules sounding quite significant on next transfer season. So it’s got me thinking the players we haven’t had for a while etc this season too. 1. Hooper 40k a week? 2. Lee 30k a week? 3. Abdi 40k a week? just in these three alone there’s 5.7 million a year wages. If we did the sensible thing and not offer them a contract at end of season estimated surely I’m not far off anyway the purpose I’m writing is to say these 3 are an example there is a couple more but if we wasn’t to resign the players we’ve got along ok without surely we will save ourselves from transfer embargo this is the avenue id be looking at if I was chansiri I wouldn’t look to sell out top current performers??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Surely if just not offering a new contract to high wage earners whose contract ends this summer would solve FFP / P&S problems would be no need for Chansiri statement yesterday or the revised 1867 scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striggy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Lomas613 said: Right so we could be staring down the barrel of P&S rules sounding quite significant on next transfer season. So it’s got me thinking the players we haven’t had for a while etc this season too. 1. Hooper 40k a week? 2. Lee 30k a week? 3. Abdi 40k a week? just in these three alone there’s 5.7 million a year wages. If we did the sensible thing and not offer them a contract at end of season estimated surely I’m not far off anyway the purpose I’m writing is to say these 3 are an example there is a couple more but if we wasn’t to resign the players we’ve got along ok without surely we will save ourselves from transfer embargo this is the avenue id be looking at if I was chansiri I wouldn’t look to sell out top current performers??? But we have not got along OK without these two, we have missed them! 1 "nobody told me there would be days like these!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 If Abdi is on 40k then thats worse than Arsenal giving Ozil 350k a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Surely if just not offering a new contract to high wage earners whose contract ends this summer would solve FFP / P&S problems would be no need for Chansiri statement yesterday or the revised 1867 scheme. Exactly that will help us next season not this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Striggy said: But we have not got along OK without these two, we have missed them! I agree a fully fit Hooper and Lee have been missed but no room for sympathy and with their injury records and the clubs financial issues should be released as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striggy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, matthefish2002 said: I agree a fully fit Hooper and Lee have been missed but no room for sympathy and with their injury records and the clubs financial issues should be released as soon as possible. Think the point I was making is that we have not got on along OK without them. If we do need to let them go due to their injury problems, then we need to replace them with equal or better quality, therefore we will not be saving any money. "nobody told me there would be days like these!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Love it when people start guessing players wages. Next Fletcher will be on 60k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) We're in the sh!t now, if we don't sell players in the next 2 weeks we'll be under a soft embargo from March, then a hard embargo from the end of the financial period. Not offering new contracts to the injured high earners etc will only help from next season onwards. Edited January 18, 2019 by mogbad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Lomas613 said: Right so we could be staring down the barrel of P&S rules sounding quite significant on next transfer season. So it’s got me thinking the players we haven’t had for a while etc this season too. 1. Hooper 40k a week? 2. Lee 30k a week? 3. Abdi 40k a week? just in these three alone there’s 5.7 million a year wages. If we did the sensible thing and not offer them a contract at end of season estimated surely I’m not far off anyway the purpose I’m writing is to say these 3 are an example there is a couple more but if we wasn’t to resign the players we’ve got along ok without surely we will save ourselves from transfer embargo this is the avenue id be looking at if I was chansiri I wouldn’t look to sell out top current performers??? How do you/we know that there have not been negotiations with each individual player based on them not playing due to injury. I know for a fact (if I owned a sports club) I’d have a clause in a professional sportsman’s contract to at least approach the individual to discuss a contract Re structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Striggy said: Think the point I was making is that we have not got on along OK without them. If we do need to let them go due to their injury problems, then we need to replace them with equal or better quality, therefore we will not be saving any money. Our neighbours across the city have shown you do not need to pay large amounts out in wages to get the right players. Chasing promotion for 2 seasons does not show that they are just lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striggy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: Our neighbours across the city have shown you do not need to pay large amounts out in wages to get the right players. Chasing promotion for 2 seasons does not show that they are just lucky. Good point and well put. Of course you do not need to pay large amounts, but finding the right players at lower wages is harder and less likely, think you need a good scouting system, and also a bit of luck. You do not need to look at our neighbours (who would want to) many teams seem to have a knack of doing well on less, but in the norm, paying higher wages for better players gives you a greater chance of success, but as this is football nothing is guaranteed. The point of my initial reply was and still is, if you get rid of Hooper and Lee (who we have undoubtedly missed) (and regardless of made up salaries) you do not save £70k a week. Not sure we would need to replace Abdi though "nobody told me there would be days like these!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Striggy said: Good point and well put. Of course you do not need to pay large amounts, but finding the right players at lower wages is harder and less likely, think you need a good scouting system, and also a bit of luck. You do not need to look at our neighbours (who would want to) many teams seem to have a knack of doing well on less, but in the norm, paying higher wages for better players gives you a greater chance of success, but as this is football nothing is guaranteed. The point of my initial reply was and still is, if you get rid of Hooper and Lee (who we have undoubtedly missed) (and regardless of made up salaries) you do not save £70k a week. Not sure we would need to replace Abdi though True, but we will reduce the wage bill, but not as much as the original poster thinks, but "Every little help's". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striggy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 36 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: True, but we will reduce the wage bill, but not as much as the original poster thinks, but "Every little help's". indeed "nobody told me there would be days like these!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, mogbad said: We're in the sh!t now, if we don't sell players in the next 2 weeks we'll be under a soft embargo from March, then a hard embargo from the end of the financial period. Not offering new contracts to the injured high earners etc will only help from next season onwards. Flippin Brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 A new voting share offer's the answer, linked to season ticket and match day discounts, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, fred mciver said: A new voting share offer's the answer, linked to season ticket and match day discounts, etc. I'm sure someone mentioned that in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 hours ago, S72 Owl said: Love it when people start guessing players wages. Next Fletcher will be on 60k a week. He se why I put a ? At side of each mate only writing what I’ve heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Owl Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Can't see Lee being on that much personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Andrew_Owl said: Can't see Lee being on that much personally. and you would be right, he's on nowhere near Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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