alanharper Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Quist said: Could you justify selling him. For example showing how you would replace and move club forward. Personally I could not as any likely replacement would cost more money or you would have to accept another weak position in team. £10 million goes nowhere nowadays. I'm pretty sure we could find somebody with the ability to disappear from games, nesh tackles but score the occasional worldly for a lot less than £10m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, alanharper said: I'm pretty sure we could find somebody with the ability to disappear from games, nesh tackles but score the occasional worldly for a lot less than £10m. In a (usual) run of good posts.. you come up with this turkey.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: Now the cats out of the bag that we need to money to avoid FFP think we will be lucky to get £5m. Now why didn't the chairman think of that before he came out with last nights statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamK2292 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I highly doubt we'll accept circa £10m without a replacement in mind. IMO, we need to keep Reach if we can and build the team around him. He's been by far our best player the last 18 months. I'd rather sell FF and Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Quist said: Could you justify selling him. For example showing how you would replace and move club forward. Personally I could not as any likely replacement would cost more money or you would have to accept another weak position in team. £10 million goes nowhere nowadays. Apart from helping to get you out of the FFP mire eh? I dont think we have a choice other than to sell unless we fancy a big fine and points deduction. Edited January 17, 2019 by RichSheffWeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 hours ago, sheffield_dave said: We were once touting £10m-£15m for FF and now we'd be lucky if someone offered us £3m. Different stages of their career and different players admittedly but same song and dance. We can hold onto whatever delusional aspirations we want, or we can cash in and lift some weight off the clubs shoulders while we can. If the club is in such a mess and the Chairman needs help to the extent that he's dropping 10pm "drunk texts" half way through January then we should snap anyone's hands off for £10m. I know we are down about things but no way in hell we would only get 3 million for FF. Could still get 10 million as he isnt poo and hasnt done anything for us in 100 years like many think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, LiamK2292 said: I highly doubt we'll accept circa £10m without a replacement in mind. IMO, we need to keep Reach if we can and build the team around him. He's been by far our best player the last 18 months. I'd rather sell FF and Rhodes. Sadly FF is a crock and Rhodes is a bit of a spent force so would get nowhere near what we would for Reach and we need to balance the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, LiamK2292 said: I highly doubt we'll accept circa £10m without a replacement in mind. IMO, we need to keep Reach if we can and build the team around him. He's been by far our best player the last 18 months. I'd rather sell FF and Rhodes. Reach scores the occasional screamer but can be limited a lot of the time. What other noticeable attribute does he have He wouldnt shine in a good team but would merely fit in. FF is a much better talent and is worth holding on to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: I know we are down about things but no way in hell we would only get 3 million for FF. Could still get 10 million as he isnt poo and hasnt done anything for us in 100 years like many think. FF is injury prone, about to hit 30 and comes with a lot if baggage. No way would we get £5m never mind £10m now clubs know we need the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 No one's going to bite for FF while he's injured and a potentially volatile court case pending.....silly boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: FF is injury prone, about to hit 30 and comes with a lot if baggage. No way would we get £5m never mind £10m now clubs know we need the money. Yeah so he had loads of injuries first two seasons... then had a operation like many do. Ok so picked up an injury this season but would have played more if it wasnt for Jos. Madine went for 6million and had baggage. Our fans just like to turn on players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamK2292 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Sadly FF is a crock and Rhodes is a bit of a spent force so would get nowhere near what we would for Reach and we need to balance the books. I agree on both counts, and we won't recoup all the money we spent on them - especially as both will be in the final year of their contracts next summer (and I doubt we'll let them run down, and they both leave for nothing.) I'll take £10m for Reach if offered and a replacement (whoever that may be) to see us through the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Yeah so he had loads of injuries first two seasons... then had a operation like many do. Ok so picked up an injury this season but would have played more if it wasnt for Jos. Madine went for 6million and had baggage. Our fans just like to turn on players He has started less then 1/4 of games since the play off final through injuries, suspension and managers not trusting him. All reasons for clubs not wanting to pay big money for him. Edited January 17, 2019 by matthefish2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, matthefish2002 said: He has started less then 1/4 of games since thr play off final through injuries, suspension and managers notvtrusting him. All reasons for clubs not wanting to pay big money for him. He had an operation and 2 poor managers not using him correctly. I wouldnt trust post 2016 Carlos or Jos to run a bath. They mismanaged plenty of players and froze some out. As for suspensions all players get them I dont get a lot of our fans. Always want to drive out talented players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: I know we are down about things but no way in hell we would only get 3 million for FF. Could still get 10 million as he isnt poo and hasnt done anything for us in 100 years like many think. We will work round it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Costello 77 said: In a (usual) run of good posts.. you come up with this turkey.. Turkey is the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: He had an operation and 2 poor managers not using him correctly. I wouldnt trust post 2016 Carlos or Jos to run a bath. They mismanaged plenty of players and froze some out. As for suspensions all players get them I dont get a lot of our fans. Always want to drive out talented players Was not talking about driving him out just giving reasons why I doubt other clubs would pay big money for him especially as other clubs know we have FFP issues. Edited January 17, 2019 by matthefish2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCOWL Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Right now you'd probably get 4/5m for Fernando. But if he were to get fit and firing again probably double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, S36 OWL said: Our problem is every club knows we are screwed with FFP, and desperate for money ,and no one will offer us his true value. Don’t sell him then. If the only reason to sell him is to ease FFP but the money we get for him isn’t enough to do that then what’s the point in selling him? We maybe mugs but we shouldn’t be flipping stupid about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCOWl Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, S36 OWL said: Our problem is every club knows we are screwed with FFP, and desperate for money ,and no one will offer us his true value. True, and we actively go offering him to clubs thay have shown an interest it smacks of desperation so clubs will try and take the p1ss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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