Costello 77 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, 2roland2 said: i didn’t, I was saying if any club can’t make a profit on a box at £20/25k then the person running that side of the business is a moron. i did try and make that clear at the end of my comment Yes you did. I apologise. Chucking morons about wether it's the fans or club is inflammatory and not helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Has DC got a Nigerian e-mail address? Or is Jacob Esan one of his advisors? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I was really pleased when he said he was going to sell. this sounds like he’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 WAMAW? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtawnyowl Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 22 hours ago, Hirst1867 said: We need £15m to avoid an embargo according to numerous football finance experts. We need to sell 5,000 lots of £3k, or 3,000 lots of £5k. We sold less than 10 of Club 1867 v1. This will need to be spectacular. As someone said earlier, what if we are selling the ground, but to the fans? Id pay £5k to own a seat that I never have to pay to sit in again. Just need another 2,999 others now Easy answer. D.C. says he has the money but P&S stops him from using it. So, D.C, himself, buys 3000 issues of 1867 scheme at £5000 per pop and donates the seats to schools etc. £15 million raised and gates up by 3000 screaming kids will raise the atmosphere. Don't want the kids sat near me though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, oldtawnyowl said: Easy answer. D.C. says he has the money but P&S stops him from using it. So, D.C, himself, buys 3000 issues of 1867 scheme at £5000 per pop and donates the seats to schools etc. £15 million raised and gates up by 3000 screaming kids will raise the atmosphere. Don't want the kids sat near me though. Dont want them sat in the same stand as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 8 hours ago, sonofbert2 said: I suggest the accounts of both Brentford and Huddersfield are looked at prior to publication and that the claims re. wages are evidenced first though. Oh don’t worry, I’m on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, pussface said: Oh don’t worry, I’m on it. You might be surprised. Championship is a reyt mess!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 He needs to learn when we need to sell. If any good money offers come in then take them! We won't go down and we can rebuild. I am really scared that he has no intention of selling though, based on the fact that we've sold noone under his reins. Reach is our most saleable asset and has to be moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Can't really fault what he has said. Do think he is an honest guy and yes I trust him. Cash wise obviously stuffed unless we sell players so just sell them and start again. All the comments on here about boxes and ticket prices are just pointless selling all the boxes would make no difference to revenue really compared to the wages and transfers we have spent. So just sell a few players and keep our heads down for a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Can't really fault what he has said. Do think he is an honest guy and yes I trust him. Cash wise obviously stuffed unless we sell players so just sell them and start again. All the comments on here about boxes and ticket prices are just pointless selling all the boxes would make no difference to revenue really compared to the wages and transfers we have spent. So just sell a few players and keep our heads down for a couple of years. really? did you say that about his other statements that directly contradict this one ? or do you believe this and not the others ? love to know your bank account and password just to randomly pick my lottery numbers for a friend re boxes that is indeed true so why alienate businesses of the sake of it? Oh hang on the make a loss silly me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Can't really fault what he has said. Do think he is an honest guy and yes I trust him. Cash wise obviously stuffed unless we sell players so just sell them and start again. All the comments on here about boxes and ticket prices are just pointless selling all the boxes would make no difference to revenue really compared to the wages and transfers we have spent. So just sell a few players and keep our heads down for a couple of years. I dont think its right to charge highest ticket prices in the league and say mid table is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pussface Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: You might be surprised. Championship is a reyt mess!! Yes Cardiff weren’t as thrifty as many thought when it came to wages and sign ons for example. Yet it won’t be difficult to attain that you don’t need to break the bank to finish 13th, as this ridiculous statement from our esteemed Chairman claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The losses 'allowed' under P&S are not in line with the current game or state of the finances in the Championship, however, there's no denying that commercially as a club we have got many things wrong. We employed a top guy from Shahktar and saw no difference. What is happening now is those errors are catching up with the club and the restraints set by the league just further compound those mistakes. The club knew the rules, were bullish in their commercial endeavours and now need the fans to bail them out. Nothing he releases under any membership scheme will fill the gap, we need an 8 figure some to make a dent in just staying out of an embargo. This is what having the right business and football people around him at the club would have avoided too. All that said, whatever is released i'll be seriously considering buying, ive been very vocal against how he's ran the club, but i do believe he genuinely wants the club to be a family and knows it's a 2 way relationship. Holding his hand up and asking for help is absolutely something i can get behind and respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Harrysgame said: Can't really fault what he has said. Do think he is an honest guy and yes I trust him. Cash wise obviously stuffed unless we sell players so just sell them and start again. All the comments on here about boxes and ticket prices are just pointless selling all the boxes would make no difference to revenue really compared to the wages and transfers we have spent. So just sell a few players and keep our heads down for a couple of years. You're very right and very wrong here. Where you're very wrong imo..is that the world loves a trier. If he could be seen to be trying very hard to maximize income... we'd be on board. But he's doing the opposite. If ... for instance he was selling players to balance the books..we'd say..reyt..we can see where you're coming from. But he hasn't..has he? If he was selling corporate and getting little feedback or profit .. we'd understand..... but he's doing neither. He's a decent person with lots of money.. but he's wasted on something he simply doesn't understand. TBF he's not the first and he won't be the last... I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike1867 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Dont want them sat in the same stand as me. Give em the lower Lepp. Opposition fans would be livid with 3000 screaming carpet commandos below them... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, room0035 said: But if you have two companies offering the same service, employee the same amount of people and delivery the same experience in this case a match day one charges £48,000 the other charges £19,000 as a business not a fan which company will you use. That's not really what I'm getting at, but in answer to your question, I don't think a box at either Sheffield club has much of a value from a corporate point of view, aside from maybe 2/3 games a season. I'm not sure a client from London is going to be seduced by a couple of box tickets to Wednesday or Utd v Brentford. Box purchases at our level will be driven by well- off fans, not by anyone making a strategic business decision. Edited January 17, 2019 by RUMBELOWS91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I think everyone agrees that even if run right that the boxes are not going to make millions or make a dent in FFP. But think people are using it as an example of the running of the club being below the standard we should expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: You're very right and very wrong here. Where you're very wrong imo..is that the world loves a trier. If he could be seen to be trying very hard to maximize income... we'd be on board. But he's doing the opposite. If ... for instance he was selling players to balance the books..we'd say..reyt..we can see where you're coming from. But he hasn't..has he? If he was selling corporate and getting little feedback or profit .. we'd understand..... but he's doing neither. He's a decent person with lots of money.. but he's wasted on something he simply doesn't understand. TBF he's not the first and he won't be the last... I'm sure. Im just baffled by the timing of it. There's a reasonable feel good factor at the moment. Big cup game to look forward to. Managerial appointment universally applauded. Injured players getting back to fitness. Previously excluded players back in contention and playing well. Then along comes DC like a great big mood Hoover and reminds us we're up the creek without a paddle in a few months. Just unnecessary ramblings of little value that can only have a negative impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: Im just baffled by the timing of it. There's a reasonable feel good factor at the moment. Big cup game to look forward to. Managerial appointment universally applauded. Injured players getting back to fitness. Previously excluded players back in contention and playing well. Then along comes DC like a great big mood Hoover and reminds us we're up the creek without a paddle in a few months. Just unnecessary ramblings of little value that can only have a negative impact. Agree it is at completely the wrong time, unless it's some sort of dig at the EFL and P&S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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