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The Concept Of The Throw In ? We've No Idea

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Could someone tell me is the purpose of a throw in to actually throw the ball to one of your own players ? Cos why o why do we persist in both our so called full backs (debatable) throwing the ball to the opposition. Example 3rd goal yesterday Fox straight to a Hull City head, this has been going on for some seasons now ! do we ever practice ?????????  

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3 minutes ago, DAMMOowl said:

do we ever practice ?????????  

Don't be ridiculous. Anyone watching yesterday would know that we obviously practice sweet F.A.

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34 minutes ago, DAMMOowl said:

Could someone tell me is the purpose of a throw in to actually throw the ball to one of your own players ? Cos why o why do we persist in both our so called full backs (debatable) throwing the ball to the opposition. Example 3rd goal yesterday Fox straight to a Hull City head, this has been going on for some seasons now ! do we ever practice ?????????  

Absolutely this.

Add to that free-kicks around the halfway line end up at the feet of our keeper.

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10 minutes ago, Brommers said:

Absolutely this.

Add to that free-kicks around the halfway line end up at the feet of our keeper.

This really annoys me, the amount of free kicks that go backwards to build annattack again which ultimately fails and ends up in usnconceeding is criminal :duntmatter:

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I always dread us having a throw-in especially in our own half, we contrive to give the ball away in most cases, more so with throw-ins, my question to the team would be "why don't you set up defensively, as you know we'll lose the ball". It seems to surprise them, as if it never happened before . Like to see the stats on this compared to other teams. 

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Throw-ins are like our passing and goal kicks. Invariably to no one on own side, resulting in us defending straight away. Clear reason why we often concede so many when we play like we have. Invite pressure and eventually concede. We aren’t making space for a forward pass so are hemmed in, make a couple of passes that make no gains forward and are straight back on the back foot. If you have slow players then the ball needs to move quicker and this means players anticipating and making space. Number of times we lost possession after one or two passes yesterday was appalling. 

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Our throw ins have been a disgrace ever since I started watching the club around 20 years ago 

 

We NEVER EVER move into space and rarely show for the ball. It really is unbelievable 

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It's about urgency, when the opposition get a throw they usually sprint to get the ball and quickly get it back in play before the other team gets in position. When we do it, it's all in slow motion,  by the time we're ready everyone's in position and it's a 50/50 long throw in the a air, or to someone surrounded by 4 players.

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SWFC Application form for fullback Left/Right. (both positions available)

1. Must have pace.

2. Must be able to tackle.

3. Must be able to pass the ball forward to a blue and white shirt.

4. Must be able to cross a ball and beat the first defender.

5. Must be able to throw a ball towards the opposition half and recognise we play in blue and white.

6. A bonus would be if they can head a ball away from our goal.

 

These are the simple rules of being a fullback.

 

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12 minutes ago, FreshOwl said:

Our throw ins have been a disgrace ever since I started watching the club around 20 years ago 

 

We NEVER EVER move into space and rarely show for the ball. It really is unbelievable 

 

Its more than 20 years.

 

In addition to Hull's third, Wigan's third on the opening day was down to our throw in. Probably other examples too.

 

Other than when we've had a long throw specialist (Spurr etc) we have consistently created more problems for ourselves than for the opposition from our throw ins. I dread us winning a throw in in our defensive third.

Can't blame Bullen, Jos, Carlos, been going on for decades, even before the throw in to the keeper was outlawed.

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55 minutes ago, Brommers said:

Absolutely this.

Add to that free-kicks around the halfway line end up at the feet of our keeper.

 

Not strictly true, some end up in our net.

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For me it’s not the thrower that is the root of the problem. It’s our movement off the ball, everyone just stands still until they receive it and then think about moving. 

 

It’s like our players think they have a god given right to receive the ball and then get time from the opposition to do what they want. It’s ok when you do it against teams that stand off but when teams press you you’re going to look stupid as happened numerous times yesterday. If we played like we did yesterday against Leeds we would have got absolutely hammered. 

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14 minutes ago, DAMMOowl said:

SWFC Application form for fullback Left/Right. (both positions available)

1. Must have pace.

2. Must be able to tackle.

3. Must be able to pass the ball forward to a blue and white shirt.

4. Must be able to cross a ball and beat the first defender.

5. Must be able to throw a ball towards the opposition half and recognise we play in blue and white.

6. A bonus would be if they can head a ball away from our goal.

 

These are the simple rules of being a fullback.

 

 

A goal every now and then wouldn't be frowned up either.

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Throw ins are bobber yes but have you watched our heading , how often we head straight to the opposition drives me mad !!

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I can't claim to be any kind of football coach at any level. 

I have watched enough football to know what players need to be able to do. 

I would love to be at a training session or two to see if they practice a system for any of the following. 

Taking a throw in so we have possession 

Taking a corner that beats the first man

Taking a freekick that travels more than 5 yards towards the opposition goal

Goalkeepers releasing the ball early

Making a cross on the run that beats the first man but doesn't end on the far corner flag etc etc 

It has seemed to me for years that in all the above situations and more,  most of the time players are making it up as they go along. Yet it is entirely predictable that you will be in those situations during a football match over and over again.

If you train not just personal skill and formation but you drill situations then under pressure in a match you will do the right thing more often. 

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29 minutes ago, Worksop Wednesday said:

we should get a specialised coach for this , like Liverpool do !

all it take is for the player taking the throw to show some urgency and his team mates to move and show for the ball not throw it high its the defenders ball every time

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In the first half(think it was later on) when we were getting battered possession wise we won a free kick on the half way line. I thought for certain we'd send the big lads up and try to cause a bit of havoc in their penalty area and maybe get lucky. Instead, we took a quick one, invited more pressure and ended up at the goalie if I remember correctly. Also, the lack of movement from throw ins is bonkers, no wonder we can't keep the ball.

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Free kicks are a bigger problem. We win a free kick in the opposition half and instead of launching it into the box we play a pointless two yard pass and lose the ball straight after. 

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Been saying for a while now that all a team has to do to beat us is let us have the ball. Eventually we will give it to them and they can waltz through and score. Should they wish to put in some effort then try and give us a throw in, that will speed up the process of them getting the ball back. We are absolutely atrocious all over the park at the moment. I fear for any team that can't beat us. 

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