Suzuki_San Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 hours ago, SiJ said: I'd imagine that 8 million, plus his wages, played a pretty significant part in bringing us to our knees with respect to Profit and Sustainability. ...and at the time, hardly anyone questioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Suzuki_San said: ...and at the time, hardly anyone questioned it. Some of us did - I did. I felt at the time we needed creativity rather than goal scoring prowess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, shandypants said: Some of us did - I did. I felt at the time we needed creativity rather than goal scoring prowess. As stated at the time: On 02/02/2017 at 23:19, shandypants said: Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled that we have signed the best forward in the championship based on the last three or four seasons, however, I'm gutted that we haven't brought in creative players. My fear is that Rhodes won't get the chances to convert into goals. For the record: Jordan Rhodes will get my absolute full support as will Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Only got 3 mins again last night , i dont think Farke will be splashing out a fee AND covering his wages again next year. Rarely starts for them in the champ and If they go up he will want better so like it or not JR may be back with us next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 17 hours ago, gurujuan said: He’s gone, a terrible signing, and the main reason we are in the predicament we are in now Yep it’s definitely Jordan Rhodes fault chansiri can’t balance his chequebook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, kingsidney said: Yep it’s definitely Jordan Rhodes fault chansiri can’t balance his chequebook. Of course it’s not Rhodes fault, it’s the fault of the people who sought to bring him here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 It looks like JR's career peaked between 2014-16, and he perhaps was on the downward curve when we bought him. The valuations throughout his career, like other players, doesn't always mirror this performance curve. I do tend to agree that the modern game requires a different type of striker - more combative; pace; strength and movement, none of which JR really has. He's made a living hovering around the 6-20 yds area in the opposition's half waiting for balls played to him or picking up scraps. He's good at ghosting into decent positions to get a angle and makes space but I suspect the average Championship defender is better now than 3-5 yrs ago. He was probably worth £4m in 2017 not £8m and like Abdi we've not only wasted a combined £12m on fees, we've bled probably a combined £60k/week or over £3m/annum in wages on these two alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Animis said: It looks like JR's career peaked between 2014-16, and he perhaps was on the downward curve when we bought him. The valuations throughout his career, like other players, doesn't always mirror this performance curve. I do tend to agree that the modern game requires a different type of striker - more combative; pace; strength and movement, none of which JR really has. He's made a living hovering around the 6-20 yds area in the opposition's half waiting for balls played to him or picking up scraps. He's good at ghosting into decent positions to get a angle and makes space but I suspect the average Championship defender is better now than 3-5 yrs ago. He was probably worth £4m in 2017 not £8m and like Abdi we've not only wasted a combined £12m on fees, we've bled probably a combined £60k/week or over £3m/annum in wages on these two alone. Agree , although for clarity I have nothing negative to say about either player. The were offered a move to S6 and agreed a contract. You check a car out properly before buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Suzuki_San said: ...and at the time, hardly anyone questioned it. Tbf, the vast majority of fans aren't sat there pouring over the clubs accounts. We were near the top of the division and seemingly riding a wave of momentum. I do recall a number of fans questioning the need for signing Rhodes. I for one, whilst not against signing a player with Rhodes record, was somewhat baffled why we'd brought him in having just secured Winnall. Edited January 19, 2019 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 hours ago, shandypants said: Some of us did - I did. I felt at the time we needed creativity rather than goal scoring prowess. I thought it was pontless after signing winnall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: Of course it’s not Rhodes fault, it’s the fault of the people who sought to bring him here Us fans, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, billyblack said: I thought it was pontless after signing winnall It was pointless because we were playing dull defensive Carlosball, and not creating enough chances although Hooper, Forestieri and Fletcher were bagging enough goals for us to pick up points. Also had Nuhiu as backup and as you say we then got Winnall at a bargain price. So why we then spunked so much on a clearly in decline Jordan Rhodes when we could have improved the team with 2-3 quality players for that price will forever be Chansiri's folly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 He’s spent Isn’t mobile enough - looks to me like a player with a slight knee concern...and for him that ability to make short, snap movements in the box has been damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, McRightSide said: He’s spent Isn’t mobile enough - looks to me like a player with a slight knee concern...and for him that ability to make short, snap movements in the box has been damaged. Got more goals this season than any of our players to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Problem with Rhodes was that we bought him, then promptly stopped providing any kind of service to the front players. Which was unfathomable for anyone who has ever seen him play. After that, because he was a high profile signing, drew the attention for the wrong reasons, lost his confidence and he was pretty much done when CC singled him out over the penalty incident, unfairly IMO. Seems happier away from the club, as does our wage bill. Suits all parties if the move can be made permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 It's similar to Torres when he went to Chelsea (on a lower scale obviously) He had been on his way down for months before and everyone could see he wasn't the same player; but you hold the hope he's going to recapture that form...he didn't. He's finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 9 hours ago, billyblack said: I thought it was pontless after signing winnall So did I. Winnall was scoring regularly in our league in a lesser side. We should have altered subtly to play to Winnall’s strengths rather than spunking all our money on another forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Problem with Rhodes is that if he isn't banging them in, then he doesn't really offer a whole lot more. A Nando, Fletcher, Joao etc might not always fire a goal in, but they may well create an opportunity for a teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 19 hours ago, A12owl said: I think he will go back to Huddersfield when they get relegated. I doubt their supporters would be disappointed at him rejoining them. They will have the money. good shout is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Rhodes will know that his signing most likely pushed us into the bobar, coupled with Carlos going public on him with regards declining to take a pen in the playoffs, he will no doubt be feeling rather crappy at being at swfc. He strikes me as a confidence player so.... I cant see him playing for us again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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