Rogerwyldesmullet Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Tell you what, we must be eating some pies if this is true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 We don't cover f*ck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlsend Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, We'llNeverBeMastered said: I thought DC said as fans we contribute very little in the grand scheme... I can see where you’re coming from looks like quite a lot of percentage coming from the funs but we have got to take into account with wage structure and running of the club that is a problem with the club at the moment too many players on too high wage Transfer costs compare that to revenue Coming in He’s not wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, Junk Smuggler said: Surprised at Norwich considering their prices are higher than ours! I believe it's a percentage of income. Unlike us, Norwich had income from transfers. Last year was about £34m, and this year £37m. Guess how much we had. With matchday income representing almost half our income, all this chart does is demonstrate just how poorly the club is being operated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Then again, it's an out of the way football Stadium. Was about to say 'not really - no more so than Elland Road, Pride Park or the City Ground'...and then I looked at which teams were just above us in the list Edited January 8, 2019 by Mr. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Jack the Hat Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, bobness said: I believe it's a percentage of income. Unlike us, Norwich had income from transfers. Last year was about £34m, and this year £37m. Guess how much we had. With matchday income representing almost half our income, all this chart does is demonstrate just how poorly the club is being operated. So doesn't all it show then is that we aren't a selling club . Which is good surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, We'llNeverBeMastered said: I thought DC said as fans we contribute very little in the grand scheme... This says WAAAAAAAAAY more. And proves DC right, in a terrifying way! Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 It's a pretty damning indictment in this day and age that we are so far out of step with other clubs in terms of being so heavily dependent on Matchday income. If the commercial side of things were running properly then the percentage should be closer to 25% which seems to be the mean value of the graph as a whole. Hopefully now that the chairman seems to be listening on the football side of things he will also take proper advice on the commercial side and turn things around. If he can do so, then P & S should cease to be an issue for us but it will take a year or two at least just to get things moving in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, londonowl said: Highlights out problem very well. Very little commercial activity outside of match day. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 It highlights to me how not to run a business. Surely every business should explore and utilise every kind of income source. The 3rd floor of the south stand (corporate) on a match day should be rammed if it was being run correctly. As it is more often than not it is completely dead. The shop is not being run to its true potential and should have more quality products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, mattitheowl said: This says WAAAAAAAAAY more. And proves DC right, in a terrifying way! And that second chart is clearly a load of rubbish. Even if our matchday income is only £10m (for ease of demonstration) for our source of funds to be 99% owner funds he would have had to put in £990m. So no idea where those figures come from. And how can Villa’s funds be 100% from the owner. Do they give their tickets away? Do they not get parachute payments? Nothing from Sky? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl At Risk Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, mattitheowl said: This says WAAAAAAAAAY more. And proves DC right, in a terrifying way! Just have another look at that and a few seconds to process what it is suggesting and you'll realise it is utter gonads, I.e. Villa's income during the last 2 years has been 100% owner financing....no gate receipts, no corporate, no parachute payments, no TV, no merchandise, no concessions?.....er, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Not Jon Newsome said: We don't cover f*ck all. That is very bad English. Double negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anus Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: Then again, it's an out of the way football Stadium. Just imagine how a club affiliated taxi firm could help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 This explains the prices. But I'm shocked at Leeds, bearing in mind the fan base and merchandising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woozie Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 For context, this is the twitter thread from Swiss Ramble https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1082200946875293696 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 hours ago, We'llNeverBeMastered said: I thought DC said as fans we contribute very little in the grand scheme... That looks to be a % of overall income from matchday only, not an indication that the number of the income is particularly high... If anythting it proves DC right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, londonowl said: Highlights out problem very well. Very little commercial activity outside of match day. Exactly this . Hillsborough holds us back in this no end , however we aren’t doing nearly enough to maximise what we can. Alienating corporate customers was up there with the biggest of chansiris current gaffs . Back onto matchday , Simple things can generate so much more. The fact it takes so long to get a beer at half time , food running out , all simple easy things to get right, yet still the club don’t sort it Edited January 9, 2019 by james o connor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, james o connor said: Back onto matchday , Simple things can generate so much more. The fact it takes so long to get a beer at half time , food running out , all simple easy things to get right, yet still the club don’t sort it It's actually not easy to get right. Of course it should be worked on, but don't underestimate what it takes to run a tight ship. Major companies invest heavily in developing effective processes. While on the consumer side it might look easy, behind the scenes it's talent and hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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