steelowl Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, i used to be sc_owl said: I honestly remember it being 200 defenders before we signed him? bl**dy hell that's 2 of you said that now I've clearly forgotten just how big a search to get JVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Way down the pecking order and after spending most of the last 12 months (but for pre-season training and the first three games of this season) injured, he needs games, so if he's not going to get them here then a loan move back to a league that's more familiar to him at least seems sensible. Then perhaps this summer the coaching staff can take it from there. Needless to say though, there'd need to be a major improvement in many aspects of his defending, and I suspect that ultimately he's not really going to be up to the Championship even with some better coaching. Nice passer of the ball, mind. At least initially anyway, but the confidence just seemed to evaporate after the first 3 games or so. Always thought it was so odd that when we signed van Aken and Venâncio, CC said that Venâncio was Championship ready but that van Aken will need a little time to settle - and then just proceeds to give van Aken his debut within days of him signing, and Venâncio didn't make his debut until CC's last game in charge about 4 months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onslow Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Back to the Netherlands. Then off to Chelsea for £45milliion in 18 months time..... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, i used to be sc_owl said: I honestly remember it being 200 defenders before we signed him? I think it was, which says to me he didn't really know what he was doing. At the time our priority was to find a ball playing centre back to replace loovens, I think we lost sight of finding a complete defender and thus ended up with a player good on the ball but not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, steelowl said: bl**dy hell that's 2 of you said that now I've clearly forgotten just how big a search to get JVA It may have been a figure of speech. Either way, the man does not have the attributes we need. Probably best all around if we get something for him, even if it’s just his wages paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Awful player, average passer too. Glad to get rid of the biggest myth on here about him being good on the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Another baffling and bad signing. Lets hope these ridicolous speculative signings are a thing of the past. Had good vision and passing ability but his defending was awful, badly timed tackles, no positional sense, unable to read the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Mountain Owl said: Another baffling and bad signing. Lets hope these ridicolous speculative signings are a thing of the past. Had good vision and passing ability but his defending was awful, badly timed tackles, no positional sense, unable to read the game. Still, im sure we will recoup knacker all for him along with a list of many others. We wonder why we never make any money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, BRADDO said: We paid a large fee for this guy and played him. Car crash defender. We loaned a far superior player in Venancio and didn't play him. Venancio was available to buy for 800k but due to embargo we couldn't do it.. typical wednesday. Spot on mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, onslow said: Back to the Netherlands. Then off to Chelsea for £45milliion in 18 months time..... Best make sure we have a sell on clause then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 once he was taken to the cleaners by Leon Clarke last season most gave up on him i suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoul Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, David1867 said: His performance against united is still in him too. He's better off back in Holland. Negativity .. it’s a disease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 He didn't cost anywhere near the 4M reported, not upfront anyway. Much like Reach never cost 5M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rentaghost Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I think playing alongside Tom lees hasn’t helped him, who has proved he needs babysitting by an experienced centre half ever since he came here, it’s ironic that van Akans better games came when he was paired with vanencio or loovens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Owls-Fan said: Remember his debut against Forest when he was pinging long passes around? That was the peak of his Wednesday career He could always ping them, just couldn't defend. No idea why we never tried him in midfield, stupid not to give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Junk Smuggler said: In all fairness Lazio were linked to him around the time we signed him. According to who his agent? That’s beyond the realms of reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Not Jon Newsome said: He didn't cost anywhere near the 4M reported, not upfront anyway. Much like Reach never cost 5M. 2.7M apparently, about 2.8M too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Not Jon Newsome said: He didn't cost anywhere near the 4M reported, not upfront anyway. Much like Reach never cost 5M. Reach cost 5.3M apparently. What do you think it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, owls_wawaw said: Great translation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Not Jon Newsome said: He didn't cost anywhere near the 4M reported, not upfront anyway. Much like Reach never cost 5M. £4.50 would have been too much. I know you are never going to get every transfer right but he is another to add to the list of flops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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