mcmigo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 The worst signing in our history and we have had some bad ones. From his debut I could not believe what I was seeing from a professional centre back. The absolute basics of footwork that any centre back from probably 10th tier football in this country would have were missing completely. Bullen must have been absolutely astonished when JVA turned up on the training pitch, you just would not know where to start and I am amazed Carlos played him as many times as he did despite extremely serious technical flaws that anyone could see, including the opposition. i wish the kid well but I think the only footballing future for him would be somewhere like China, Middle East or the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls_wawaw Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, torres said: “Very well” is pushing it to the extreme Can't argue 5 games three clean sheets and part of a settled back four. Whenever I saw him play I always thought he gave it his all and actually played well and ok granted not been to many games recently due to costs but he has it in him to be a good defender...maybe Bruce will help him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, owls_wawaw said: I have heard Bruce is the man to do this it's a shame if he does go he couldn't have had some time with him there is a good player in there and has been thrown under the bus a bit with injuries and how Carlos treated him Trust me there isn’t a player there at all, certainly not a centre back. Bully would do a better job at 50 years old now than van aken would do today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, mcmigo said: The worst signing in our history and we have had some bad ones. From his debut I could not believe what I was seeing from a professional centre back. The absolute basics of footwork that any centre back from probably 10th tier football in this country would have were missing completely. Bullen must have been absolutely astonished when JVA turned up on the training pitch, you just would not know where to start and I am amazed Carlos played him as many times as he did despite extremely serious technical flaws that anyone could see, including the opposition. i wish the kid well but I think the only footballing future for him would be somewhere like China, Middle East or the states. Pretty bad, I’ll grant you, but the worst, Jordan Rhodes, for many many reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, torres said: “Very well” is pushing it to the extreme I agree...……...fair play for improving but he has upgraded from awful to average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I just hope it’s a permanent deal and not a loan. Been horrendous considering we paid around £4m. His performance against United was one of the worst defensive performances I’ve ever seen at Hillsborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, gurujuan said: Pretty bad, I’ll grant you, but the worst, Jordan Rhodes, for many many reasons Rhodes hasn’t worked out of course but he has been a player, you can see that even when he has been off form here. Van Aken is not at professional footballer standard in the UK. He drives from the wrong foot constantly. I don’t even know how you could partner a centre back who does that, it would be an absolute nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, 1993swfc said: I just hope it’s a permanent deal and not a loan. Been horrendous considering we paid around £4m. His performance against United was one of the worst defensive performances I’ve ever seen at Hillsborough. Think the fee was nearer £2.5 M...…………..still far too much mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, Lythamowl said: Can’t understand what they saw in him in the first place I’ve seen sette’s turn quicker. You said that about McGuire you know...the England player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 We paid a large fee for this guy and played him. Car crash defender. We loaned a far superior player in Venancio and didn't play him. Venancio was available to buy for 800k but due to embargo we couldn't do it.. typical wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 59 minutes ago, Andrew_Owl said: Great passer but awful defender, I prefer Fred Nielsen. I know this wont be popular but I have seen Nielsen on about half a dozen occasions and he is miles away from being a champ player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, sheriwozgod said: I know this wont be popular but I have seen Nielsen on about half a dozen occasions and he is miles away from being a champ player. Like most of our youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Good, would like to see venancio back though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I think you would have to say Abdi is the worst signing, high transfer fee and salary, hardly ever played and no re-sale value. As poor a signing Rhodes was at least he scored a few and has some value left in him. Van Aken, granted, was a shocking signing it would seem. At least if he is loaned a slight chance remains he can develop. Abdi takes it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls_wawaw Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, debram said: Good, would like to see venancio back though Unfortunately he got injured mate and has played 2 or 3 games this season in total maybe this was the reason we didn't sign maybe we saw something medically ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, owls_wawaw said: Unfortunately he got injured mate and has played 2 or 3 games this season in total maybe this was the reason we didn't sign maybe we saw something medically ? Yep, we dont always get the full story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, torres said: Like most of our youngsters Agree again......Ash Baker in particular is way out of his depth...……..this isn't bashing our young players for the sake of it , just realism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest addedtime Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, mcmigo said: The worst signing in our history and we have had some bad ones. From his debut I could not believe what I was seeing from a professional centre back. The absolute basics of footwork that any centre back from probably 10th tier football in this country would have were missing completely. Bullen must have been absolutely astonished when JVA turned up on the training pitch, you just would not know where to start and I am amazed Carlos played him as many times as he did despite extremely serious technical flaws that anyone could see, including the opposition. i wish the kid well but I think the only footballing future for him would be somewhere like China, Middle East or the states. Abdi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Are we going to get a fee for him or is he going for nowt as per our usual transfer policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, steelowl said: what was CC's comment we looked at 40 forty CBs and we got JVA kin ell I honestly remember it being 200 defenders before we signed him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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