ZicoSterland2 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, southportdc said: Were our annual losses then in excess of £13m? I thought Milan said it was £5m-£10m per year? So sustainable to the Football league. Think before Milan we were 26 million in debt and couldnt pay all are creditors. Milan did a great job but he was never going to be here for the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, akbuk said: No but the owners of TUG could open another company to purchase the ground and invest in the club Then it wouldn't be T.U.G., would it? It would be a privately owned company held by one or more of the Chansiri family. And why the feck would they do that when there's nothing stopping them buying the grounds out of their own personal funds? The only factor emphasised here is it won't be T.U.G. company funds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, ChinaOwl said: Then it wouldn't be T.U.G., would it? It would be a privately owned company held by one or more of the Chansiri family. And why the feck would they do that when there's nothing stopping them buying the grounds out of their own personal funds? The only factor emphasised here is it won't be T.U.G. company funds! T.U.G...... Sorry, I've blown my new year resolution to act grown up already...... Edited January 2, 2019 by Pablo Bonvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, akbuk said: No but the owners of TUG could open another company to purchase the ground and invest in the club Incidentally, who do you think the "owners" of Thai Union Group are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: If only I had a rich daddy. you should have married into money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, rickygoo said: Not necessarily under revamped rules. https://www.mikethornton.xyz/new-ffp-tests/ That's interesting - never knew there was a stage before they look at the 3 year accounts. That suggests that if you can sell the stadium for enough profit to break even/profit over two years, the 3 year test no longer applies to you? So if our combined losses for last year and this year are projected to be <£30m, then selling the stadium for that amount would register us as profitable with the Companies House accounts, and mean FFP doesn't apply? Or does the fact we've already entered the stage of Test 2 mean that it's too late for that? I wish I knew accounting. Without ever having to actually learn it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, matthefish2002 said: Thankfully this is true. So no one is allowed to express an opinion on the running of a football club on a public internet forum? of course you're allowed to comment, just as others are allowed to post an opposite opinion. if you post things on a club supporters site that are (perhaps) opposite the owners wishes, there's a chance you can expect opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Ash76 said: Not at all Also, it's not you that has to learn, it's DC and the pending appointment of SB alone shows he is learning I very much doubt dc has lured bruce to s6 with the promise of 10% of the monies to spend from the sale of reach, bannan, ff, and westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Trouble is they dont and these rules are in place to safeguard clubs. It was only 7 years ago we were teetering on the brink of administration. I’m not sure P&S rules would actually prevent administration in worst case scenario of an owner effectively pulling out with 8 figure losses per year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 17 hours ago, gillyno9 said: Sure I first broke this “story” last week!!!!! Keep up old boy You been talking to yourself again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 33 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: Incidentally, who do you think the "owners" of Thai Union Group are? Top 10 shareholders Shares % 1. Chansiri Family 978,004,352 20.5 2. Thai NVDR Co., Ltd. 598,366,550 12.5 3. Mitsubishi Corporation 347,745,120 7.3 4. Niruttinanon Family 326,497,812 6.8 5. Social Security Office 227,338,408 4.8 6. State Street Bank Europe Limited 136,305,270 2.9 7. Bualuang Long-Term 120,047,100 2.5 8. Boonmechote Family 87,932,980 1.8 9. Morgan Stanley & Co. International PLC. 82,437,140 1.7 10. Chase Nominees Limited 76,908,902 1.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, HarrowbyOwl said: Top 10 shareholders Shares % 1. Chansiri Family 978,004,352 20.5 2. Thai NVDR Co., Ltd. 598,366,550 12.5 3. Mitsubishi Corporation 347,745,120 7.3 4. Niruttinanon Family 326,497,812 6.8 5. Social Security Office 227,338,408 4.8 6. State Street Bank Europe Limited 136,305,270 2.9 7. Bualuang Long-Term 120,047,100 2.5 8. Boonmechote Family 87,932,980 1.8 9. Morgan Stanley & Co. International PLC. 82,437,140 1.7 10. Chase Nominees Limited 76,908,902 1.6 Yeah, that helps. Just add a thousand or so other names below these and you might get a full list of owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 17 hours ago, gillyno9 said: See what pans out........ no point insulting people for sharing things they have heard. I heard an interesting story on what really happened between jos and Sam Hutchinson....... might share it tomorrow. 16 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: What's wrong with today? 16 hours ago, gillyno9 said: Bit long winded and needs to be worded correctly and I’m tired. Feeling refreshed enough to share your revelations yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillyno9 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: Feeling refreshed enough to share your revelations yet? Been busy round ikea and building flat pack sh!t up in new pad. Your just gonna have to be patient........... you will probably be underwhelmed anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, HarrowbyOwl said: Top 10 shareholders Shares % 1. Chansiri Family 978,004,352 20.5 2. Thai NVDR Co., Ltd. 598,366,550 12.5 3. Mitsubishi Corporation 347,745,120 7.3 4. Niruttinanon Family 326,497,812 6.8 5. Social Security Office 227,338,408 4.8 6. State Street Bank Europe Limited 136,305,270 2.9 7. Bualuang Long-Term 120,047,100 2.5 8. Boonmechote Family 87,932,980 1.8 9. Morgan Stanley & Co. International PLC. 82,437,140 1.7 10. Chase Nominees Limited 76,908,902 1.6 So any of the top four could be the ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, gillyno9 said: Been busy round ikea and building flat pack sh!t up in new pad. Your just gonna have to be patient........... you will probably be underwhelmed anyway The whelm monitor is plugged in. Just waiting for the story to be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerwyldesmullet Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, daveyboy66 said: So any of the top four could be the ones So long as it’s not #5! “social security” Dont want mi housing benefit affected - unless they move me to an executive box at Hillsbrough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: Feeling refreshed enough to share your revelations yet? 8 minutes ago, gillyno9 said: Been busy round ikea and building flat pack sh!t up in new pad. Your just gonna have to be patient........... you will probably be underwhelmed anyway Hang on hang on! Wait till I've got up to my comfy chair with a pot of tea and some biscuits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to summarise what is going on for me, without me having to read 17 pages. Thank you very kindly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, theowlsman said: Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to summarise what is going on for me, without me having to read 17 pages. Thank you very kindly. Were going up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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