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1 minute ago, NYCOWL said:

I don’t think he will gamble. We are too far away.

 

On both points in the league and FFP!

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The thing is that success and failure have one thing in common, this being that they often arrive when least expected. We accept the former as a bonus and the latter as bad fortune, nowt we can do about either, but a season in the sun would be nice.

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50 minutes ago, Bolsterstone Owl said:

DC is a gambler.

Often stakes £10k a time at casino. 

Given a chance he'll go for it.

I've heard he's lumped £100k on a play off finish. 

Keep that last one quiet or he'll be in trouble for breaking betting guidelines.

 

We don't want to be going back there again! (for the older ones amongst us)

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If DC went for it , we would suffer severe pain and punishment if we failed to get promoted and out of the reach of the EFL.. They would nail us to the floor .

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He already “went for it” but it was half-hearted unfortunately. Wolves went for it properly and it paid off. We made some big signings in his first two seasons but we didn’t really go for it, Rhodes being the main transfer that just wasn’t what we needed. We needed to spend £8m on a few players to seriously go for it in positions we needed (LB,CB,CM and a pacey forward)

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2 hours ago, toppOwl said:

Everyone expects us to sell in January but with DC’s prophecy that we are in big trouble if we don’t go up will he hold on to what we have, give Bruce (if it be he) a transfer budget and go for broke.

 

Its not impossible but would be a momentous task.

 

Is it worth a gamble and what would be the outcome if it fails?

 

Interesting times ahead!!

The points difference is too big to be able to have a go at it this season. More than likely tbe players  Bruce wants will be loan players, so not costing a great deal. Then we will look to have a good go next season with possibly a much changed side

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Don't think loan players would break the bank FFP wise. If we went out and signed 3 players for millions, then could expect some attention from EFL. 

 

FFP as it is, is testicles anyway and presume at least a few will keep tabs on Birmingham's punishment, or lack of before completely ignoring it.

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Yeah go for it and win fa cup. Not bothered about finishing 15th. 

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Why go sh#t or bust when we're 11 points off the play offs? It would make no sense and could put us in financial trouble for years to come. Then again, why stick with Jos for so long when he had no idea and had fallen out with half the team? Worrying times.  

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Nixon was intimating that DC still sees promotion as a possibility and that no-one is leaving.

 

Have to admit that sounds concerning.

 

Also heard we turned down an offer for Joao yesterday.

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Options at this stage...

 

Selling players.

Selling the stadium.

Selling a percentage of the club.

 

Chansiri won't sell any of his favourite players it seems. 

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Let's go for it buy the best we can, with a couple of bad boys always in the press for boozing and whatever they get up to nowadays. Go for the front page instead of the back page, the investors will flood in. 

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DC has had the nod, no points deduction just a massive fine next year, how much a fine depends on spends

 

The dogs are going in the traps....

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1 hour ago, NYCOWL said:

I don’t think he will gamble. We are too far away.

 

I think he will.

 

Seems the type. He gambled on Rhodes.

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Rumours coming out of the training ground is, full steam ahead Viv Nicholson style #uto 

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2 hours ago, Tamworthowl said:

I'm not sure how the EFL monitor each club's balance sheet, but the process used to be retrospective. Hence QPR, Bournemouth, Leicester got away with breaching the limits because promotion took them out of the reach of the EFL. The rules have changed and it is now a forward looking process. If we blatantly disregard the rules and go sh!t or bust and "get promotion" we might well get a points deduction to take us down to 7th or lower.

 

My understanding is the same as yours, if a club finishes in the top 2 by busting P&S the EFL can deduct points & force them to compete in the playoffs, similarly if a club busting P&S has finished in the playoffs then they can be demoted to a position outside the play offs. Even more scary a team busting P&S but finishing just above the bottom 3 could end up relegated.

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37 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said:

Nixon was intimating that DC still sees promotion as a possibility and that no-one is leaving.

 

Have to admit that sounds concerning.

 

Also heard we turned down an offer for Joao yesterday.

 

I stopped reading at “Nixon”.

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1 hour ago, NYCOWL said:

I don’t think he will gamble. We are too far away.

Agreed. It wouldn't make sense. IF he was gambling on Bruce pulling off a miracle (assuming it is Bruce), he would have wanted him in the club immediately, not waiting till the end of January - thus missing several matches and the transfer window.

 

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