Pleat in the Daily Telegraph Yesterday

[fudge27]

11 minutes ago, Ian said:

Is the Dave Richards you are referring to the same bloke who was Chairman when we won't the only trophy we've won in most people's lifetime.....who had us playing in Europe.....who had us signing players against competition from the likes of Arsenal, had us build a practically new South stand wth executive boxes and had us staging Euro 96 games despite the fall out from the disaster?

The man who was in charge for the dismantling of a squad and signed off all the deals that put us millions on debt; spent an absurd amount of money on the stadium, and didn't match the level of investment in the team; brought back a manager purely to fire him for his own ego, sold us down the river with Di Canio, oversaw the appointments of such superb managers as Wilson, Pleat, Shreeves.

 

And proceeded to leave us upon relegation;

 

yea thats the one mate.

[shezzas left peg]

2 minutes ago, Ian said:

Man puts own career in front of his current employer shocker.....so like almost every player we've ever had then...including Di Canio at every club he was ever at?

I wasn't disagreeing with you bud, I'm 44, so the football when he was chairman was the best I remember us being and was a great time as a supporter. 

For me it just soured his time remembering how instead of building on that success and pushing on, we headed downwards and declined. 

[dunsbyowl]

20 minutes ago, simpark said:

Dave Richards now runs the wine shop in Wentworth. He's in there most days. Saw him leaving just before Christmas in a Jaguar with an 'Owls' personalised number plate

He perhaps,  ought to keep away from alcohol ?

 

 

 

[Lord Snooty]

33 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said:

Shut up dave

 

You had no ideas what to do with that squad. Tried to build the team around richie humphreys and wasted the money on dutch and belgium leaches and journeymen.

 

To be fair he brought in some good players too. 

Di Canio is one of the best talents I've ever seen. Carbone might have had the best first touch I've ever seen and the hugely under rated  Degryse one of the most intelligent players I've seen (Gutted he left so quickly). 

 

Some huge mistakes Pleat made. But I don't think he made a great deal more bum signings than many others. 

 

I belive that has biggest issue was trying to force the rejuvenating of the squad through too quickly and letting go of players that still had something to offer. 

 

 

[HIGHERSTATE]

1 minute ago, Lord Snooty said:

 

To be fair he brought in some good players too. 

Di Canio is one of the best talents I've ever seen. Carbone might have had the best first touch I've ever seen and the hugely under rated  Degryse one of the most intelligent players I've seen (Gutted he left so quickly). 

 

Some huge mistakes Pleat made. But I don't think he made a great deal more bum signings than many others. 

 

I belive that has biggest issue was trying to force the rejuvenating of the squad through too quickly and letting go of players that still had something to offer. 

 

 

I agree with this regarding breaking up the legendary team..but this was also the first wave of foreign imports and we went giddy over it..for every three exquisit players there was about 8 that looked like they couldnt find sheffield on a map and they had no idea about english football.  

[Nut]

58 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said:

Joicey, Mullen, Prendergast, ??, P.Springett, Pugh.  

Who is the tall guy?

Think it's Joicey, Mullen, Jeff Johnson, Dave Cusack, P Springett and Pugh.

[OhForAnotherShez]

1 hour ago, Lincs Owl said:

Joicey, Mullen, Prendergast, ??, P.Springett, Pugh.  

Who is the tall guy?

Jeff Johnson is the 3rd guy.

 

Cusack ('Cyril') as identified by Dunsby is the tall guy.

 

I am not 100% sure about Mullen, but can offer no alternative

[Lord Snooty]

18 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said:

I agree with this regarding breaking up the legendary team..but this was also the first wave of foreign imports and we went giddy over it..for every three exquisit players there was about 8 that looked like they couldnt find sheffield on a map and they had no idea about english football.  

 

I was raging when he sold Hirst. Absolutley raging. 

But 9 goals in 3 years for Southampton before retiring...that £2m was actually a brilliant bit of business.

(I was still at a stage where I got attached to players even thouh I was WAY old enough to know the lunacy of that!)

 

The two  Serbian lads were a gamble. Though Kovacevic didn't settle you could see the potential and why we bought him.  And at least we recouped our money on him.

 

His compatriot Stefanovic we lost out on. Though the club had to take the full blame for that. Pleat had gone when Wilson amazingly allowed his work permit to run out and he had to go on a free.

The thing is he was only something like 4 games short for his renewed permit. And that included as sub.  Fair enough he wasn't in the team. That's the manager perogative,  but not to send him on with a minute left just to get the apps  in. Cost us £2m.  

Then he's off to Pompey a couple of years later for £2m where he plays 100 odd games in the Premier League and becomes their skipper.

 

Of course some odd signings. I quite liked Trustfull. .but Pleat seemingly did isn't trust him to start many! Odd signing.

 

I agree that there was a problem, which many teams have had over the years where I think they lose the core of the players that understand the league and the club.  I think that was Pleats biggest issue and the problem I have with him.

[Inspector Lestrade]

23 minutes ago, HIGHERSTATE said:

I agree with this regarding breaking up the legendary team..but this was also the first wave of foreign imports and we went giddy over it..for every three exquisit players there was about 8 that looked like they couldnt find sheffield on a map and they had no idea about english football.  

 

Who were the eight?

[Utah Owl]

3 hours ago, Sergeant Tibbs said:

Don't forget Paul Jewell. 

 

The same Paul Jewell that came to us having taken Bradford from the third tier to the EPL and then immediately after leaving us did the same at Wigan? Yes clearly a shocking manager!

 

We were a basket case of a club at the time, not even Fergie would have succeeded in the short time allowed before fans expectations kicked in and the sack followed.

[Lawrie’s Left Peg]

2 hours ago, Drewswfc said:

My dad grew up on the same road has Dave Richards. Burgoyne rd at walkley if you can believe it. He says he was always a little stuck up 2hat. Nowts changed as it. Where did the șhițhoușe make his money? 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/184805/How-can-Sir-Dave-Richards-a-man-who-made-a-success-of-failing-rescue-England

[paul_letters]

4 hours ago, fudge27 said:

Pleat was a poor manager for us; hardly an inspiring leader;

However, Dave Richards is up there with DA as our worst every chairman and the reason we have been on the decline for over 20 years imo.  How he ended up PL chairman is embarrassing with the mess he left us in 

I always got the impression that the mess was caused BECAUSE he was PL chairman. Too busy swanning about in that London rather than taking care of Wednesday towards the end. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Edited December 30, 2018 by paul_letters

[Ian]

Just now, paul_letters said:

I always got the impression that the mess was caused BECAUSE he was PL chairman. Too busy swanning about in that London rather than taking care of Wednesday. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

You're wrong

[paul_letters]

1 minute ago, Ian said:

You're wrong

I walked right in to that one

[LJH1867OWLS]

4 hours ago, dunsbyowl said:

 

Anyone on Owlstalk ever have Warnock "see" to their ingrowing toenails? That would be a real claim to fame.

 

Colin was my uncle's footy coach at Todwick juniors... said he was a good coach but he's a big nosed foot smelling wànker! 

 

so yeah...

not his biggest fan

[Ian]

2 minutes ago, paul_letters said:

I walked right in to that one

I think Richards didn't take over as PL chairman until after he'd been succeeded at Hillsborough

[paul_letters]

3 minutes ago, Ian said:

I think Richards didn't take over as PL chairman until after he'd been succeeded at Hillsborough

He became chairman in 99, I have to admit I thought it was earlier. When did he quit as chairman?

[dani_armo]

Still to this day I cannot understand how or why pleat got the job

 

Barring one decent season at spurs what had he ever done?

 

He did sign some decent players tho amongst stars like Oakes and Collins 

[sage owl]

4 hours ago, Salmonbones said:

 

I'm sorry but I put pleat below those other managers you quote.

 

Pleat had a great squad to pick, and he chose a couple of players over achieving to drop Waddle, when most at the time thought he could get most out of Waddle in what they thought were his twilight years, yet he still produced the goods for teams like Bradford, Sunderland and Burnley.    He should have retired with SWFC in truth.

 

That's not my main gripe (nor should it be, as that's a minor issue) - but Pleat consistently made Wednesday the underdog, when we had proven our mettle in the top flight already.  He set up for the counter, he set up to give the opposition credit- think Irvine on speed.

 

I was still young at the time, but Pleat ruined this club - some on this forum say Francis did, which I refute wholeheartedly - it was Pleat who did that.

 

And regarding the kerb crawing comments.   I won't make comment, but most heard the rumours.

 

 

 

 

DJ Mortimer will be along soon  to tell you how it was all Trevor Francis' fault. 

 

[sage owl]

3 hours ago, simpark said:

Dave Richards now runs the wine shop in Wentworth. He's in there most days. Saw him leaving just before Christmas in a Jaguar with an 'Owls' personalised number plate

Might pop in and see if he's got the £17,000 He owed me when his company went bust.