oldowl67 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 In the article he is quoted as saying that two months ago when we were sixth the fans were saying Jos was good. Is this true, because I can’t remember that much positivity towards Jos. My feeling at the time was relief that we’d managed to get a few wins without playing all that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, sheriwozgod said: What a pointless, stupid statement..........if that is an example of the searing insight we can expect tonight then it is gonna be a long one. This is spot on ,Do any of you think he will listen to you ,He is going to tell you how it is going to be like it or lump it .We need a British manager ,And not some past it manager ,Hungry ambitious ,With a good eye for up and coming young players in the lower divisions ,Stop signing past it mercenaries .At least young players can be developed and sold . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 "Football is a team sport where you can win, lose or draw." And people say he knows nowt about football 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 41 minutes ago, EcclesallOwl said: The whole “we were 6th a few months ago” line is starting to wear very thin for me Once again, a dreadful opening day performance set the tone for this season. Performances have been dire all season, when we were 6th it was a false position after beating bottom, 22nd & 21st. It was also 12 games in. I’m not sure how you can keep looking back and saying we were brilliant and 6th and everything was rosey when we hadn’t even played every team once yet? From what I have seen and especially lately we are I a false position now. 5 points above relegation zone is better then our performances deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 In a way, the chairman is right However, in this instance, I feel DCs loyalty is misplaced. What we have seen from Jos since he has been here, has been so far removed from what we were promised. There are no signs that things are getting better, if anything, things have deteriorated still further. I don’t usually call for a manager to be sacked, but with absolutely no sign of things coming together, we can’t just sit here hoping our only salvation, is for three clubs to be worse than us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Yes some poorly chosen words on managers. But I think it was right for him to have an open discussion with the players about what's gone wrong. He also said he didn't blame them. Hopefully the players will have given him an open opinion back. Lord knows the fella needs some knowledgeable football influence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 DC is loyal to his managers, I'll give him that. Wrong decision IMO, nothing is guaranteed in football but do at least need to have the right people in key positions to stand a chance. Jos is done, just wonder how many more defeats are needed before a change is made. Ultimately, not my decision to make and nothing I can do to affect the situation. I won't be going to any more games while Jos is here, not out of any moral high ground protest, but simply because his team don't provide any entertainment and can't get motivated to make the 400 mile round trip to watch a half hearted performance ending in defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) There’s nothing wrong with loyalty. DC just needs to understand loyalty in football terms.....It alarms me that he still can’t see when something has passed the point of no return. I agree that changing the manager doesn’t guarantee success. However, keeping a poor one will guarantee no success. I really hope he’s taken note of events across the Pennines. Inaction is so damaging. Edited December 19, 2018 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 What a ridiculous comment from the chairman, our position now is the best reflection of the managers ability, where we had been is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 .....at least one positive from this report, I can stop checking every hour today to see if he's been sacked yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, upperwinngardensowl said: Doesn’t he know there are no gaurantees of success at Football? doesnt he know that we know that already? he ant gotta clue. he's just learnt that, like everything else about football, his depth goes back 3 years. WE WILL GO DOWN WITH JOS IN CHARGE, THE GROUND WILL BE EMPTY BEFORE THAT, YOUR SEASON TICKET HOLDERS HAVE ALREADY STARTED NOT TO TURN UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) I still think Jos will leave, there’s no return from this point and if Alan Biggs is openly talking about Bruce then the writing is on the wall. Edited December 19, 2018 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: The manager is inept, So you're the authority on this are you? I guess it's just because he doesn't make decisions in line with armchair managers... Edited December 19, 2018 by slinger208b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Oh god its going to be an absolute disaster tonight. DC seems like a nice man - but my god he isn't a business man. The fans' appreciation of the situation is STREETS ahead of DC's - he is so far behind the curve it is almost untrue. Hate to say it, but as fans we are absolutely screwed. An owner who can't, won't or is scared to make a decision. Diabolical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 58 minutes ago, EcclesallOwl said: The whole “we were 6th a few months ago” line is starting to wear very thin for me Once again, a dreadful opening day performance set the tone for this season. Performances have been dire all season, when we were 6th it was a false position after beating bottom, 22nd & 21st. It was also 12 games in. I’m not sure how you can keep looking back and saying we were brilliant and 6th and everything was rosey when we hadn’t even played every team once yet? Yea...and a couple of months before that everyone was 1st, last, and in midtable...1 win in 10 and the football we are playing tells you we are where we deserve to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronxowl Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 So, if DC is saying it’s not Dross’ fault, and the players fault, are the rumours sounding out for a new manager true? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Mycroft said: I don't think you have proved your point that they aren't playing for the manager, which I think is a moot point anyway as the players should be playing for the fans, the club, and their own professionalism. We should look at the players as well if they aren't playing for the manager for me that is not an excuse for bad performances. that man can't 'enthuse' the fans, and he can't 'enthuse' the players either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September65 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Chansiri: “Two months ago, the fans and media were saying Jos was very good." This is utter nonsense and shows how misinformed our Chairman is. Jos has been clueless since he arrived. Last season we got a few results courtesy of the likes of Nuhiu, Vernancio and Joao coming in after CC ignored them and one or two playing for new contracts. Jos was lauded by a few early on for apparently addressing fitness issues and not having favourites. But his tactics and selections have been consistently ridiculous throughout, no strikers at Millwall being a particular lowlight. I have not heard anyone say Jos is very good at any time since he arrived. Edited December 19, 2018 by September65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, davey_wells said: Oh god its going to be an absolute disaster tonight. DC seems like a nice man - but my god he isn't a business man. The fans' appreciation of the situation is STREETS ahead of DC's - he is so far behind the curve it is almost untrue. Hate to say it, but as fans we are absolutely screwed. An owner who can't, won't or is scared to make a decision. Diabolical. rabbit sat in main beam thinking 'oooo, what's that coming towards me'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 So basically. He wants to cross his fingers and hope everything works out. Not contingency plan, no bsckuot and if we find ourselves in league one next year, blame the fans for the lack of support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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