Bluesteel Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Philb125 said: Win two or three and all is forgiven. Carlos was all but done, won five on the bounce and Carlos had a dream was back in full force and we get an extra 12 months of him. The trick is winning two or three when you can’t organise the team though isn’t it. Carlos was saved by the return of Lee and Hooper, not sure jos will be. Besides when we were sat shy of the play offs with Carlos before their return, it wasn’t this glum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 hours ago, HarryPlopper said: Lets face it, this is what is on the cards for us. I do believe we will escape relegation, and probably go on the same kind of run we did when Jos came in and played a solid back five consistently. I don't believe Jos will ever regain the fans mind you. This is what I personally expect, anyone else feel the same? 1 minute ago, Bluesteel said: Hes doing the job with minimal fuss, so much so that there is no real inspiration or communication and the distance between club and fans widens. The longer that goes on the worse it will be. The fact that Bruce seems so appealing in comparison speaks volumes. mmmm! keeping mr. dead verses selling season tickets, i wonder which he'll go for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 hours ago, fpowl said: I’m my time watching Wednesday I generally can’t remember so many people being against one man I think with the squad we have and the expecteations it’s by far the worst I’ve seen a manager perform Regardless of if chansiri is restricting Jos from picking certain players or not They should be against DC, not Jos. It starts at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdial Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, bigash_swfc said: Like I said in another post, I think with Bruce, without parachute payments. We'll be jumping from seasoned pro to seasoned pro. An expensive unsustainable roll of the dice each season, signing players like Curtis Davies 33, David Meyler 30, Tom Huddlestone 32 etc...(we've been here with Carlos) Giving Jos time could be key. As he's shown he's willing to give players like Fox, Dawson, Thorniley, Baker, Penney, Clare, Preston more opportunity than previously given. These are all players who view SWFC as the absolute "Pinnacle of their career" - giving their best years to the club. We only get players "best years" the Jos Way. We don't have the money Bruce paid for Kodija 15m, McCormack 13m, Chester 8m, Hogan 12m, Snodgrass 8m More and more I think about it, Bruce could make us alot worse than we currently are. Don’t know who I fancy but it isn’t Bruce. It will no doubt be some foreign mercenary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, bigash_swfc said: Like I said in another post, I think with Bruce, without parachute payments. We'll be jumping from seasoned pro to seasoned pro. An expensive unsustainable roll of the dice each season, signing players like Curtis Davies 33, David Meyler 30, Tom Huddlestone 32 etc...(we've been here with Carlos) Giving Jos time could be key. As he's shown he's willing to give players like Fox, Dawson, Thorniley, Baker, Penney, Clare, Preston more opportunity than previously given. These are all players who view SWFC as the absolute "Pinnacle of their career" - giving their best years to the club. We only get players "best years" the Jos Way. We don't have the money Bruce paid for Kodija 15m, McCormack 13m, Chester 8m, Hogan 12m, Snodgrass 8m More and more I think about it, Bruce could make us alot worse than we currently are. You lost me with "fox" Walking disaster as is baker Those 2 alone have been his downfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 hours ago, sibon said: That’s not exactly going to be the best commercial for selling season tickets. He’ll be gone by the fans forum. should av gone a month ago,don't know how he's still here,turned us into a shambolic team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, meggoisgod said: You lost me with "fox" Walking disaster as is baker Those 2 alone have been his downfall don't think it's possible to be a lot worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 He should have gone already, he doesn’t deserve anymore time. If DC had any knowledge of football he would have sacked him, actually he would never have appointed him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 hours ago, sibon said: That’s not exactly going to be the best commercial for selling season tickets. He’ll be gone by the fans forum. That would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, billyblack said: They should be against DC, not Jos. It starts at the top. Chansiri has to take responsibility for this mess yes however what we are seeing from these players that we was seeing two years ago is a complete shambles defending, passion, tactics, squad rotation I put firmly in the hands of Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, billyblack said: They should be against DC, not Jos. It starts at the top. Blame DC for the way the club is run, ticket prices etc but things on the pitch, tactics, formations, substitutions, lack of motivation rest with Jos and the players. Unfortunately the players imo have stopped playing for the manager and a change needs to happen. We can’t sack the players so that change has to happen by getting a new manager in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, fpowl said: Chansiri has to take responsibility for this mess yes however what we are seeing from these players that we was seeing two years ago is a complete shambles defending, passion, tactics, squad rotation I put firmly in the hands of Jos Tactics, defending, yes. Passion should come fron the players. Squad issues i land firmly with DC. Lack of options to improve or change the squad, unbalanced squad all lie with him. DC should fall on his sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Blame DC for the way the club is run, ticket prices etc but things on the pitch, tactics, formations, substitutions, lack of motivation rest with Jos and the players. Unfortunately the players imo have stopped playing for the manager and a change needs to happen. We can’t sack the players so that change has to happen by getting a new manager in. They both need to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Basically we need a good talker here. Too much is lost in translation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 They're selling Jos baubles in the club shop. He's here for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls Loyal Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Luhukay has lost the players and the fans. No manager ever comes back from that. I am surprised by some of these posts as Luhukay is finished at SWFC. If he survives until Saturday I expect Swansea to be the final nail in his coffin. And above all DC risks losing £80 million if he keeps Luhukay as manager any longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 If JL stays until the end of the season think we will stay up but Wednesday will lose a lot of good will (and its already lost a lot) with the supporters, Atmosphere will be terrible at home matches if not playing well, which on evidence of recent weeks will be most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, billyblack said: They both need to go I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fantham Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 If we can get 15% of supporters to say they have no confidence in Chansiri/Luhukay do we get a leadership election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 hours ago, bigash_swfc said: Like I said in another post, I think with Bruce, without parachute payments. We'll be jumping from seasoned pro to seasoned pro. An expensive unsustainable roll of the dice each season, signing players like Curtis Davies 33, David Meyler 30, Tom Huddlestone 32 etc...(we've been here with Carlos) Giving Jos time could be key. As he's shown he's willing to give players like Fox, Dawson, Thorniley, Baker, Penney, Clare, Preston more opportunity than previously given. These are all players who view SWFC as the absolute "Pinnacle of their career" - giving their best years to the club. We only get players "best years" the Jos Way. We don't have the money Bruce paid for Kodija 15m, McCormack 13m, Chester 8m, Hogan 12m, Snodgrass 8m More and more I think about it, Bruce could make us alot worse than we currently are. There's no way Bruce would have this sort of money to spend on players. You might be right about Jos though I doubt it very much, Norwich manager Fecker or whatever his name is looked on way out, awful towards end of last season, didn't get off to a great start this season either. Also sold there best player Maddison. Things can quickly change around in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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