sonofbert2 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, room0035 said: I don't make stuff up but some don't like to hear the truth so they slag people off who ever could I be thinking of ............................ I wonder. You do make stuff up, you did it yesterday re. the kit deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, toppOwl said: I thought the commitee dispersed much earlier than that to be fair, DC says Roeder didn't sign a single player. If DC actually followed any of his chairman statements we would be one of the best run clubs in the country, but we can all see from the state we are in what total rubbish he was spouting. I just look at the team we had when Carlos arrive, the 5 or 6 loan then permanent signing made in the close season when Roeder and others were at the club, then from that point on the players signed and the dross we now have. Like I said either the first season DC signed great players and we made all the mistakes afterwards or more likely he had no influence in any of those players signing and he had a bigger involvement in the later signing. DC is not going to come out and say all the good players were signed by the guys I got rid of is he and technically if he was paying for the players so he could say they were his signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, fred mciver said: The whole of footy's laughing at us at present - Brown confirmed it on Sky against Leeds regarding Westy's contract. And Lee Strafford outlined Paxo's role and Doyen take over. Also, Roeder was excellent, and a great guy who donated his £1 million Hammers pay off to a brain cancer charity. Brown made his comments v United and if by the "whole of football" you mean just them and their ex players then you are probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, sonofbert2 said: You do make stuff up, you did it yesterday re. the kit deals. What that we are under valuing ourselves by not trying to maximize the amount of money we get in for advertising and sponsorship. I could post you a link from 5 years ago that said £500,000 was the average sponsorship for a shirt deal in our league but the league has moved on so much in the last 2 or 3 years we are in all but name a premier league 2 attracting great players and fans we should be looking to equally maximise the revenue we as clubs get in from all sources. I pick teams promoted as examples as we won't get the same as them but if we got 50% of the amount we would be light years ahead of where we currently are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, toppOwl said: DC says Roeder didn't sign a single player Maybe so, perhaps he was just being pedantic. Perhaps just a strange coincidence, since the committee was sacked, recruitment has gone to ratshyte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, fred mciver said: The whole of footy's laughing at us at present - Brown confirmed it on Sky against Leeds regarding Westy's contract. And Lee Strafford outlined Paxo's role and Doyen take over. Also, Roeder was excellent, and a great guy who donated his £1 million Hammers pay off to a brain cancer charity. It gets worse, so you think a bitter ex-united player knows the inner workings of SWFC, laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, sonofbert2 said: Brown made his comments v United and if by the "whole of football" you mean just them and their ex players then you are probably right. Yeah, to a 6 million audience on biggest footy platform in Europe. Think word might have spread. Agents in Jan will be best test - like August. We are a sick joke and DC's fault. At least the £49 gig has gone missing - like 20% of our spectators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, room0035 said: If DC actually followed any of his chairman statements we would be one of the best run clubs in the country, but we can all see from the state we are in what total rubbish he was spouting. I just look at the team we had when Carlos arrive, the 5 or 6 loan then permanent signing made in the close season when Roeder and others were at the club, then from that point on the players signed and the dross we now have. Like I said either the first season DC signed great players and we made all the mistakes afterwards or more likely he had no influence in any of those players signing and he had a bigger involvement in the later signing. DC is not going to come out and say all the good players were signed by the guys I got rid of is he and technically if he was paying for the players so he could say they were his signings. No he told the truth and said Doyen were behind most of the signings first season and CC the second, what does he gain from lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 03/12/2018 at 02:41, S36 OWL said: His ego is going to cost him a lot of money if we are relegated. It might cost him a lot of money, ultimately it could cost us the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 DC / Doyen turned down Vardy , Kodjia and McGuire for relative peanuts. And that's just 3 we know of. Urby did well though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, toppOwl said: No he told the truth and said Doyen were behind most of the signings first season and CC the second, what does he gain from lying? He would have to admit he made a mistake getting rid of Roeder and the committee that signed the players in the first season and since then his advisers (Doyes) and him have been signing all the players that have done so well for us. With DC it seems to be about keeping face and not admitting any fault or mistakes made. If he did maybe as a football club we could move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 This thread would benefit from some facts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, vulva said: This thread would benefit from some facts. well yep but who's going to judge whether a posted fact is an actual fact ? that's a problem with this whole scenario of this regime's dealings nothing rings true and despite all the rumours & theories The actual truth should we ever hear it will probably be worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Don't hold your breath you will turn Blue. the words - Think / Assume /imagine should all be charged with 11.000 volts when inputting onto a thread .. That will give them something to "think" about ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Maybe so, perhaps he was just being pedantic. Perhaps just a strange coincidence, since the committee was sacked, recruitment has gone to ratshyte. You mean since we got reeled in by Paxo and his mates . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, S36 OWL said: You mean since we got reeled in by Paxo and his mates . Paixao was here before DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, room0035 said: What that we are under valuing ourselves by not trying to maximize the amount of money we get in for advertising and sponsorship. I could post you a link from 5 years ago that said £500,000 was the average sponsorship for a shirt deal in our league but the league has moved on so much in the last 2 or 3 years we are in all but name a premier league 2 attracting great players and fans we should be looking to equally maximise the revenue we as clubs get in from all sources. I pick teams promoted as examples as we won't get the same as them but if we got 50% of the amount we would be light years ahead of where we currently are. No, you stated that Wolves, Fulham and Cardiff all signed multi million pound kit deals whilst in the Championship and prior to promotion and it wasn't true. All the deals and numbers you quoted to back up the point above were incorrect. The amount Chansiri is allowed to pay/offset for FFP is set by the EFL based on the average achieved by clubs getting outside sponsorship deals and doesn't reach six figures. Edited December 4, 2018 by sonofbert2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, room0035 said: He would have to admit he made a mistake getting rid of Roeder and the committee that signed the players in the first season and since then his advisers (Doyes) and him have been signing all the players that have done so well for us. With DC it seems to be about keeping face and not admitting any fault or mistakes made. If he did maybe as a football club we could move forward. So again people want transparency but as soon as the club chairman speaks if it doesn't fit your agenda it's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, toppOwl said: So again people want transparency but as soon as the club chairman speaks if it doesn't fit your agenda it's not true. People are accusing DC of not being cute enough to find dodgy ways around FFP yet at the same time expect him to air every detail of what he's up to in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, toppOwl said: So again people want transparency but as soon as the club chairman speaks if it doesn't fit your agenda it's not true. No what he is saying just does make any sense. He tells everyone he has no experience. But in his first transfer window he builds a team that gets to the play-offs then in his next 5 transfer windows he buys players the fans want, buy a lot of useless players including the guy who played just 27 minutes of football the whole season (Urby) So how did he get that first season transfer window so right and all the rest wrong if it was the same people buying the players as he tell us. Look at it with a clear view a teams makes 80-90% good signing at a time when a committee is involved, that committee is disbanded and from that point onwards the club makes 80-90% crap signing is that bad luck or more likely......... He blames CC for all of the rubbish signing but the in the next interview say CC is the coach and has nothing to do with signing players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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