shandypants Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 If Jos is still in charge for the Rovrum game then if we lose or draw, the lynch mob will out in force; if we win then it’s just a win against a team we’d be expected to beat. Is is there any way we can beat the Millers and Jos come out of it with credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Not really,no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Yes win and play well. Whoever thats against the crowd will get behind them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 It’s the same every time we play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lythamowl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Well as supporters we used to the ‘no win’ situation..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfsmith Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Possibly. He plays Westwood, Hutch et al and they win 5-0. In the after match interview he declares a change of heart and promises to be a good boy for the rest of the season. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, shandypants said: If Jos is still in charge for the Rovrum game then if we lose or draw, the lynch mob will out in force; if we win then it’s just a win against a team we’d be expected to beat. Is is there any way we can beat the Millers and Jos come out of it with credit? I don't expect us to beat anybody at the moment - so yes, Jos must get some credit if we win, irrespective of his part in the victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 If we play a positive brand of football and keep them bottled up in their half, and we win 4-0 or more then maybe Jos will get some credit. At this stage, rightly or wrongly, he can’t win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, shandypants said: If Jos is still in charge for the Rovrum game then if we lose or draw, the lynch mob will out in force; if we win then it’s just a win against a team we’d be expected to beat. Is is there any way we can beat the Millers and Jos come out of it with credit? People shouldn’t look at a manager on a “game to game” basis - that has always been expoused by DJ Mortimer. It isn’t my original thought - but his. And, having read it over the years and been persuaded, I agree with him. “If he loses - he has to go”. That is daft IMO. Rotherham shouldn’t be make or break - you’ve/we’ve had enough time already to access his merit or failings. Conversely a win shouldn’t make any difference either - ergo Megson and the Derby. Someone should be judged over a period of time. . Edited December 2, 2018 by ReadingOwl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Personally I will still want him out whatever the result. A win against a pi$$ poor team will do nothing to convince me otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Personally I will still want him out whatever the result. A win against a pi$$ poor team will do nothing to convince me otherwise. I think this is what the OP is alluding to. It is only possible to beat what is put in front of you and, when folk stop giving any credit whatsoever when victories occur, he's absolutely in a lose-lose situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 It's gone too far now. He's shown over the last 4 months that he hasn't a clue & has lost the fans & the dressing room. No matter how positive the result is against Toytown he's plainly not the man for the job & needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 We will win 2-1 and Jos will buy a month. Mcgoldrick missing that penalty will cost us relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I don't think he's got it in him to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, vulva said: We will win 2-1 and Jos will buy a month. Mcgoldrick missing that penalty will cost us relegation. I agree. But a win shouldn’t buy him a month, though. If he’s rubbish, he’s rubbish. I don’t really understand why it should all rest on one game - for better or worse, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod9 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Here is how he wins. Plays the proper team with no exceptions. Wins 8-0. Comes out after match and tells us WTF is going on behind closed doors. Resigns. Job done. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Managers have a shelf life with the fans, once it has expired despite what they might do there is little chance of winning them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 if this bunch of no hopers beat rovrum 5-0 they'll come off to a standing ovation and yesterday will be forgotten …..that's how fickle we are . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, ReadingOwl said: I agree. But a win shouldn’t buy him a month, though. If he’s rubbish, he’s rubbish. I don’t really understand why it should all rest on one game - for better or worse, Agree. When I hear the phrase ‘one more game’, it’s game over. Managers never recover from these positions. He’s lost the fans, and players. We need a dead cat bounce, and quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, torryowl said: If these bunch of no hopers beat Oxford they'll come off to a standing ovation and yesterday will be forgotten …..that's how fickle they are . Alex Ferguson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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