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6 minutes ago, Bulgaria said:

It's a forum mate, a place for folks to opine, vent and laud.

Be boring if we all just agreed and said nowt.

 

Well mate even Neil said the same.

If you look later in the thread you’ll see I added to what I’d said.

It was the criticism of him as a player that got my goat and not his performance on the night.

Some of the things said were out of order and it’s a theme on here that players get singled out.

Reach too has been slagged off.

Without those 2 players where the hell do you think we’d be?

You can’t deny that there are certain posters who revel in a good moan

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4 hours ago, Owls-Fan said:

As Keith Andrews said, Bannan is being asked to be a defensive midfielder and I think it’s effecting his game. Really he needs to be alongside a powerhouse unit or two, so that he can focus more on being further up the pitch 

Nail ont ed. We've needed that since before the play off final-the powerhouse midfielder I mean.

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2 hours ago, Lawrie Madden said:

Spot on LLP

 

I think some on here need to look at how good the pigs are this season 

 

Bannan was immense 2nd half must have covered every blade of grass in an effort to secure a point 

He's a good player.

When he did his only trick last night they were onto him.

He's marvelous when he can get his foot on the ball and have time to pick a pass... last night wasn't the game for him.

I was particularly displeased when he couldn't find a man for twenty minutes then made wild gesticulations toward Penney ? for doing not much wrong.

He's good in a good team....the rest is beyond his skillset. He could learn a lesson from Hector in that you get the job done without drawing attention to yourself imo.

 

Could have been the soft target baker...a good reason why he'll never be a captain of any club he'll play at.

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When your asking Bannan to be what’s essentially a Defensive midfielder it’s never going to end well 

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2 hours ago, Tank_owl said:

Not one of his better performances. However he didn't have much to work with around him. Reach and Fletcher were the only outlets when the game was 100mph. Quite a few of his passes went to the Blunts but as I say he was surrounded most of the time with not much on other than often tricky passes to Reach or Fletcher.

 

Pelupessy was doing the holding role and I thought for the most part did ok, got some crunching tackles in, but Penney was anonymous for most the game and the so called wing backs didn't offer Bannan much.

And what exactly did bannan offer.

Could say exactly the same for Penney and joey- what did they get off bannan? - didly squat.

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Can't believe you're not allowed to point out when a player had an ineffective game.  Which is exactly what Bannan had last night.   Having said that Penney and Pelupessy were anonymous.  

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5 hours ago, Finney on the Wing said:

Just said in another thread that, if you look back at Carlos' first season and the excellent pass and move game we played

 

there's only Bannan that's really left regularly playing. Forestieri, Hooper, Lee, Wallace, Hunt and Pudil were all integral to

 

the quality football we were playing back then. Until we get the likes of the first three back (plus Matias, maybe) the style of

 

football may not be the best to watch but if it get's us points and some momentum, then so be it.

 

 

 

Have to agree. He still seems to be trying to play that quick pass and move style, but no-one around him is on the same wavelength.

 

We just don't have players who are getting into space and anticipating his flicks like we did under Carlos.

 

I think he needs to to put his foot on the ball a bit more, take a bit of time, look up and pick out his passes.

 

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7 hours ago, Roy Of The Roasters said:

 

You can't win sometimes. There's been a lot of criticism of the players recently, suggestions that they're disinterested and not sufficiently motivated. So it's good that Bazza actually recognised the importance of last nights fixture.

 

To be honest, I don't think the way we set out to play yesterday was ever going to suit his strengths.

Should be motivated for every match. Paid enough. End of!

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3 hours ago, Costello 77 said:

He's a good player.

When he did his only trick last night they were onto him.

He's marvelous when he can get his foot on the ball and have time to pick a pass... last night wasn't the game for him.

I was particularly displeased when he couldn't find a man for twenty minutes then made wild gesticulations toward Penney ? for doing not much wrong.

He's good in a good team....the rest is beyond his skillset. He could learn a lesson from Hector in that you get the job done without drawing attention to yourself imo.

 

Could have been the soft target baker...a good reason why he'll never be a captain of any club he'll play at.

 

I spotted that. It was Baker I think. 

 

You are right of course. He shouldn’t be balling-out kids, but I have noticed his frustration rising this season and last. Hardly surprising given that he is a class above most of the team, but nonetheless it’s out of order.

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1 hour ago, Sham67 said:

Can't believe you're not allowed to point out when a player had an ineffective game.  Which is exactly what Bannan had last night.   Having said that Penney and Pelupessy were anonymous.  

Entitled to your own opinion mate but come off it. Bannan was poor. We had little possession for Joey or Penney to do anything with. Wouldn't call that anonymous at all

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Difficult to maintain stellar performances every game unless everyone else is also at the top of their games / on the same wavelength.

 

Bannan puts the ball where the runners should be. Often, they haven’t thought about moving yet.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Lee Strafford said:

Most of his passing resulted in us losing possession with far too many bad passes in our half, think he lost his head last night......too wound up. 

 

Have to wonder if that collective mental energy, which Bannan was part of,  is what underpinned the defensive focus though.......

 

 

 

I think we can forgive him one off game considering his performances so far this season. 

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Bannan was absolute garbage last night. No compsure and gave it away. Defensively a liability.

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23 minutes ago, Slogboy said:

Entitled to your own opinion mate but come off it. Bannan was poor. We had little possession for Joey or Penney to do anything with. Wouldn't call that anonymous at all

 

In my post ineffective was used as a synonym for poor.  

We had little possession because our midfield was non-existent.  That is why they were anonymous.  Apart from that, you're absolutely spot on.

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Made a mess of a few passes but an absolute tireless animal in that 2nd half that summed up everything good about us.

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5 hours ago, Sham67 said:

Can't believe you're not allowed to point out when a player had an ineffective game.  Which is exactly what Bannan had last night.   Having said that Penney and Pelupessy were anonymous.  

Even my missus (who is a big Bannan fan) said he needs to be taken off. I was about to argue the point with her that he may be playing crap but he has a positive influence on those around him. Then I thought better of it, been up that f---in cul de sac before.

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3 hours ago, theowlsman said:

 

 

Bannan puts the ball where the runners should be. Often, they haven’t thought about moving yet.

 

 

 

Or have been told not to move and maintain shape.

 

In a defensive set up we rely on his boundless energy whilst limiting his full capabilities.

United always had an option or two even in their own defensive third but especially in our full back positions and gave the impression they always had an extra man.

 

Without Lee and FF, we just don't currently have anyone who matches his work rate or instinct to make progress up the pitch.

United have that down both flanks and through the middle with Fleck and Duffy ably supported by CBs who are comfortable operating where our central midfielders would expect to be.

 

All for playing kids and assimilating 1 or 2 into the side each season is about the limit IMO in an ideal world, expecting 4 or 5 out of 11 to form a convincing side puts immense pressure on the experienced players.  It's not hard to understand that Lees, Bannan, Reach and Fletchers form has also taken a hit.

 

I have to say that whilst Bannan and Fletcher were disappointed several times last night that some of the youngsters didn't do what comes naturally with experience, they made a point of still encouraging them once the danger had subsided.

They are the true professionals and the blame IMO in having to play half a side of inexperienced kids lies firmly at the door of who allowed the club to get itself into this state and the position of acquiring and retaining so many players on cliff edge contracts....

 

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12 hours ago, mozzy85 said:

He worked hard and made some good tackles. But his passing was sub par by his own standards and I’m sure he’d admit that himself. 

 

We needed his passing to be on point to make use of any breaks and to relieve pressure.

Poor display from an experienced owl

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12 hours ago, Animis said:

Bannan struggled last night - he tends to against teams who hussle him in midfield. He flurishes with time to pick passess etc - he couldn't do that last night and gave the ball away a few times.

Everyone can flourish if they have time to pick passes. Very over rated

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