Lord Snooty Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Dont think its been mentioned in this thread but a big reason the club is in trouble is not just making mistakes signing players but nit selling anyone either. Wanting to keep players because they are all 'family' is not way football works. You also have to find clubs willing to take 30 year old crocks off your hands. We could list all our over 30 crocks and has beens but I doubt there would be clubs queuing around the block to take them. Any clubs that might be interested at their recent levels of quality would likely be in this divison or below anyway and not able to fund their Premier League wages. We're stuck with them till they run down. (The contracts that is, not the players. They're already run down. Hence no one wants them. Bizzarely, except a few fans on here who think they're the answer to all our problems, despite highlighting them as the root of all our problems only months ago.) Funny old game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Lord Snooty said: You also have to find clubs willing to take 30 year old crocks off your hands. We could list all our over 30 crocks and has beens but I doubt there would be clubs queuing around the block to take them. Any clubs that might be interested at their recent levels of quality would likely be in this divison or below anyway and not able to fund their Premier League wages. We're stuck with them till they run down. (The contracts that is, not the players. They're already run down. Hence no one wants them. Bizzarely, except a few fans on here who think they're the answer to all our problems, despite highlighting them as the root of all our problems only months ago.) Funny old game. Contracts running out is what the whole thread is on about not selling them!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, torres said: Contracts running out is what the whole thread is on about not selling them!!!! I know that Corky I was replying to a comment about selling them though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinky Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 58 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Feel genuinely sorry for Mr Chansiri on this point why? He sanctioned these so caloed high wages, no ine else. Onkh sa himself to blame for the outrageous waste of his own money and fans who are paying ridiculously high prices for littlr or no return. Time for him to man up, realise he is out if his depth and HE is the one to blame for this mess. But more importantly employ a DOF who knows the game to make these decidions for him. I'll not hold my breath though as he is a petulant child. Reminds me so much of a certain ex chairman that destroyed Chesterfield Fc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, CF83OWL said: This is why we are pushing out Westwood and Hutchinson, because of the wages. Westwood's contract is up in January and Hutchinson has until 2020. Is it? I've no idea when it ends but I thought most long term player contracts run until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, vulva said: Let's not forget that Rhodes will be back here next season on big wages. Unless he goes up with Norwich and they see something in him he failed to materialize for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, prowl said: Is it? I've no idea when it ends but I thought most long term player contracts run until the end of the season. His contract is up in June. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, prowl said: Is it? I've no idea when it ends but I thought most long term player contracts run until the end of the season. 30th June is my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Feel genuinely sorry for Mr Chansiri on this point I do, this is frightening, only he knows his financial commitment so far not sure where we go from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, CF83OWL said: This is why we are pushing out Westwood and Hutchinson, because of the wages. Westwood's contract is up in January and Hutchinson has until 2020. Westwood's contract ends in June Fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, steelowl said: I do, this is frightening, only he knows his financial commitment so far not sure where we go from here Sell players to reduce losses as far as possible. Look for exit strategy. Cut losses and leave. I don't mean that in a nasty way. Chansiri took a chance and it very nearly paid off. But he is highly unlikely to be able to reverse the current downward spiral and he would be well advised to cut his losses at this stage. That is investment in football. Fraught with risk and very few winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I’m perplexed with the whole wages/FFP affair, it just doesn’t add up. It’s like a race to the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, DELUDED OWL said: Westwood's contract ends in June Fella. Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, CF83OWL said: Typo Its cool fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 ... we'd best go and play at Blackburn Meadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, ChinaOwl said: Sell players to reduce losses as far as possible. Look for exit strategy. Cut losses and leave. I don't mean that in a nasty way. Chansiri took a chance and it very nearly paid off. But he is highly unlikely to be able to reverse the current downward spiral and he would be well advised to cut his losses at this stage. That is investment in football. Fraught with risk and very few winners. I meant where do WE go from here I think that's all sound advice for him he needs to do the above this looks like a vanity exercise that turned into a gamble now as with all failed gambles there's a price to pay I doubt he'll be sleeping on the streets though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Hooper will finally return to the first team in April, have 4 good games and be rewarded with a new 17 year contract on £85k pw 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, steelowl said: I meant where do WE go from here I think that's all sound advice for him he needs to do the above this looks like a vanity exercise that turned into a gamble now as with all failed gambles there's a price to pay I doubt he'll be sleeping on the streets though WE can only hope that the next guy(s) at the helm can fund the shortfall and bring a sustainable strategy. That is the sum total of what WE can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: WE can only hope that the next guy(s) at the helm can fund the shortfall and bring a sustainable strategy. That is the sum total of what WE can do. Exactly as I said I don't know where we go from here IF he leaves and who knows what depth of financial and league position mess will be left - we will be back to being prey for all manner of dubious buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, steelowl said: Exactly as I said I don't know where we go from here IF he leaves and who knows what depth of financial and league position mess will be left - we will be back to being prey for all manner of dubious buyers Yes, but sadly how does that make a difference from the last twenty years of being a Wednesday fan? We are currently stuck in this vicious circle of ownership that is killing the club. People just need to realise that owners with loads of money is not the cure to the club's long term ailments. Money alone is not enough. Having a sustainable strategy is more important. Unfortunately in football, that type of owner is very few and far between! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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