MysticOwl Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Having had 2 play off finishes.....then in the 3rd season we were heading for a top 6 finish until injuries and the wheels came off, just take a look at game 7. I dont even think we had Fessi around this time either cuz he was out way before this. Then by xmas he decided to leave cuz the fans turned on him calling for him to leave at Hillsborough and then Swansea came knocking again for a 2nd time.... If we had beaten the blades things may have been different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 His big mistake after the team went on a good run of wins towards the end of his second season was to drop in form players for his crocked favourites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Perhaps the reverse will happen this time. We beat the blades and that turns our fortunes for the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxOwl Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Christ were going gown with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, OxOwl said: Christ were going gown with It's a Nice Gown though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 But Carlos did lose the Derby and then finished with a team which could only play sideways at walking pace. Jos has to pick his best team, that he can rely on for the next game and they owe him and us a result big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Ozymandias Owl said: But Carlos did lose the Derby and then finished with a team which could only play sideways at walking pace. Jos has to pick his best team, that he can rely on for the next game and they owe him and us a result big time. It is not gonna happen with Jos mate....he has lost the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, CF83OWL said: It is not gonna happen with Jos mate....he has lost the players. My only concern with changing the Manager is the players have won again. Let's be fair Carlos wasn't a bad manager, but he's obviously lost the players. We've got a problem because the senior players Jos isn't picking won't give 100% because they want new contracts. Same as 03-04 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, CF83OWL said: It is not gonna happen with Jos mate....he has lost the players. Damn careless of him, hope he finds them soon, Hutch & Westy should be easy to find, look in the treatment room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ozymandias Owl said: My only concern with changing the Manager is the players have won again. Let's be fair Carlos wasn't a bad manager, but he's obviously lost the players. We've got a problem because the senior players Jos isn't picking won't give 100% because they want new contracts. Same as 03-04 season. I dont think CC lost the players see. Carlos never gives that impression when you see him in interviews. We lost Fessi and Hutchinson via injury if my memory is correct. Then the more injuries followed and the wheels came off. A few draws set us back too. But as for the players, I think they liked him. Edited November 4, 2018 by CF83OWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 11 hours ago, CF83OWL said: Having had 2 play off finishes.....then in the 3rd season we were heading for a top 6 finish I don't think we were. We were too wildly inconsistent and you could guarantee that we would throw away points against teams that couldn't buy a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard1867 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, CF83OWL said: I dont think CC lost the players see. Carlos never gives that impression when you see him in interviews. We lost Fessi and Hutchinson via injury if my memory is correct. Then the more injuries followed and the wheels came off. A few draws set us back too. But as for the players, I think they liked him. If they'd liked him they wouldn't have put in such poor performances, like Hull at home? Playing at walking pace sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: His big mistake after the team went on a good run of wins towards the end of his second season was to drop in form players for his crocked favourites. Partly right, but the major thing is he couldn’t change his game plan regardless of player changes and teams learned to play against us. Just rotating players didn’t change the style of play when it was required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 11 hours ago, pazowl55 said: Perhaps the reverse will happen this time. We beat the blades and that turns our fortunes for the better. Its going to be difficult to sort that shambles of a defence and midfield before friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Personally I still think Carlos would have us higher then Jos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, debram said: Its going to be difficult to sort that shambles of a defence and midfield before friday Agree. But we are missing Matias and Forestieri they keep the ball upfront with direct running and clever running off the ball into space. Which in turn keeps it away from the backline. We seem void of ideas without them. We also need to play 3 at the back. There needs to be more defenders in there not less of them. And no Hector. Absolutely criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Spookone said: Personally I still think Carlos would have us higher then Jos 16th ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, pazowl55 said: Agree. But we are missing Matias and Forestieri they keep the ball upfront with direct running and clever running off the ball into space. Which in turn keeps it away from the backline. We seem void of ideas without them. We also need to play 3 at the back. There needs to be more defenders in there not less of them. And no Hector. Absolutely criminal. Agree but as usual injuries are killing us, can't work out why no hector yesterday though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, debram said: Agree but as usual injuries are killing us, can't work out why no hector yesterday though. Jos probably trying to be clever and getting it spectacularly wrong. With a back 4 though unless he dropped Lees he was never playing Hector as he likes to go with a right footer on the right and left footer on the left of the two centre backs. Edited November 4, 2018 by pazowl55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 12 hours ago, CF83OWL said: If we had beaten the blades things may have been different. This is key for me. Maybe a lot of fans won’t admit it, but a lot care only about beating United. That is when there was no going back for me and it was when, not if he left from the moment we lost that game. If we won that game, Carlos would have been a legend to a lot of fans. Some will still have wanted him to go, but I don’t think the chanting would have started. It would have regularly been mentioned “at least he beat United and I’ll always love him for that” “I don’t care what we do this season at least we beat the blunts”. You’d read that over “look at the mess he’s got us in”. I think those who speak abusively of him now would say things like “well he beat United so I’d still let Carlos sh ag my wife” instead. Football eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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