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12 minutes ago, jonesy87shef said:

 

Well he was clearly different class. He had everything you could dream of in a box to box midfielder. 

 

I don't expect us to have anyone near the  quality of Carlton. What I do wonder though is if Joey would get in any other side in this division. 

 

 

He wouldn't get in any league 1 side 

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1 minute ago, owler66 said:

He wouldn't get in any league 1 side 

 

Now now, one of my mates is a bradford fan and assured me Ozzie Owl would get in their midfield 

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Genuinely not a clue what he offers. At least with a player like Semedo you knew what you were getting every game despite limited ability. Not his fault but he’s nowhere near championship standard. 

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With Hutchinson and Jones frozen out we don't have another defensive midfielder to come in and do a one for one replacement with Joey.

 

We have tried most combinations at the back, 3,4 or 5 at the back and we still concede loads of goals.

 

Maybe try a flat back 4 and try 2 defensive midfielders Hector holding the shape and Joey doing the ratting and breaking up.

 

Its very negative and would probably mean playing a lone striker but boy do we need that clean sheet.

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Let this sink in.... Joey Pelupessy, a cm player had his first touch of the ball today in the 26... YES TWENTY SIXTH minute of the game.

 

25 mins and 28 seconds before he touched the ball. 

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58 minutes ago, roland nilson said:

Known from 1st couple of games he’s no better than we had , ineffective generally and sums Jos up, but after I’ll these years we’ll support SWFC after these people all long gone, incompetent is what I think

I think it sums up only having 500k to spend instead due to thrifty nonsense buys buy our owner personally

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Get the ball pass to Bannan, get the ball pass to Bannan, get the ball pass to Bannan.........and repeat.

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He didn't even make that many of his legendary 5 yard passes today:

 

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In the first 21 minutes me and my son didn’t see him touch the ball, maybe he did once and we missed it.

he is one of those players, like O’conner who nearly gets to the ball but doesn’t quite make it and he can’t shoot or pass.

he isn’t complete crap, but he adds little to the team.

with the master stroke of having no central midfielder on the bench we were stuck with him.

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4 hours ago, Slogboy said:

Onomah deserves stick, he was lazy all game. However, Joey gets slated yet just count how many times baz gave ball away first half but hey, he's a hero.

I'd question why we change formation to 4-3-3 Second half as this I believe cost us.

Yes it's another loss but the team clearly need confidence right now not fans slagging them off!

 

There's a reason why Baz gave the ball away more than Joey; Baz tries to pick out the passes while Joey just make dinky little 5 yard passes.  He has no creativity and he doesn't shield the defence.  I'm not quite sure what he offers.

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1 minute ago, Gresh said:

There's a reason why Baz gave the ball away more than Joey; Baz tries to pick out the passes while Joey just make dinky little 5 yard passes.  He has no creativity and he doesn't shield the defence.  I'm not quite sure what he offers.

He made more interceptions than the rest of our team combined today

He's limited, but he does more of a job shielding that defense than a lot give him credit for. Joey may not be someone you want in the starting XI in a play-off chasing team, but he's nowhere near as high up the list of "issues" we have as people make out. 

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Bit harsh to single him out. Hes not great but hes not horrific like people on here make out 

 

If you look at how we play, it kills any midfielders game. Be that attacking or defensive midfielders. When we play 3 defenders with wingbacks its actually just a flat back 5. Penney and Palmer arent ever there to support the midfield, instead they just drop into the defence and make it a flat back 5 . How in the hell are Pelupessy and Bannan gonna stop 3 or 4 oncoming players on thier own in that situation? Someone also said it earlier in this thread and pointed out that Bannan goes running off out of position quite a lot and this leaves Pelupessy isolated too. Them things right there are half the reason why we get rinsed every week and he and the team seemingly gets overrun in the middle.

 

The other side of the coin is that we are playing flipping this god awful counter attacking football. Yet we dont have the players to play this way. We sit too deep all the game, hope that our 2 man midfield or our 5 man shoddy defence can pinch the ball and then try to break away. However with the lack of pace we have this is often with the speed of a smacked up sloth.

 

Teams in this division have a style and they sign and play the players that fit that style. The pigs are prime example, not the best players by any stretch, but they do what is asked of them in that set up. We have a pile of somewhat decent players, but due to the previous regime, not enough to actually field a team with a set style and gameplan.

 

We have target men and no wingers, we play wingbacks whilst not actually owning a single wingback, we try and play out from the back, yet have no defenders that cant pass ect ect.

 

Blaming or singling out Pelupessy today isnt really right. There were easily worse players out there today. So what if hes not the best in the league. Hes the best of what we have available to us right now. Not his fault the team is set up badly and has no tactical identity. Least hes out there trying and not hiding. My apologies for the essay. Todays pissed me off no end, but it wasnt this lads fault.

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He's better than Buttercup

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6 minutes ago, 33 said:

He's better than Buttercup

 

That’s like saying your doctor is better than Harold Shipman. 

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7 hours ago, 33 said:

He's better than Buttercup

He isn’t though and the same goes for Jones

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7 hours ago, OwlinOldham said:

Bit harsh to single him out. Hes not great but hes not horrific like people on here make out 

 

If you look at how we play, it kills any midfielders game. Be that attacking or defensive midfielders. When we play 3 defenders with wingbacks its actually just a flat back 5. Penney and Palmer arent ever there to support the midfield, instead they just drop into the defence and make it a flat back 5 . How in the hell are Pelupessy and Bannan gonna stop 3 or 4 oncoming players on thier own in that situation? Someone also said it earlier in this thread and pointed out that Bannan goes running off out of position quite a lot and this leaves Pelupessy isolated too. Them things right there are half the reason why we get rinsed every week and he and the team seemingly gets overrun in the middle.

 

The other side of the coin is that we are playing flipping this god awful counter attacking football. Yet we dont have the players to play this way. We sit too deep all the game, hope that our 2 man midfield or our 5 man shoddy defence can pinch the ball and then try to break away. However with the lack of pace we have this is often with the speed of a smacked up sloth.

 

Teams in this division have a style and they sign and play the players that fit that style. The pigs are prime example, not the best players by any stretch, but they do what is asked of them in that set up. We have a pile of somewhat decent players, but due to the previous regime, not enough to actually field a team with a set style and gameplan.

 

We have target men and no wingers, we play wingbacks whilst not actually owning a single wingback, we try and play out from the back, yet have no defenders that cant pass ect ect.

 

Blaming or singling out Pelupessy today isnt really right. There were easily worse players out there today. So what if hes not the best in the league. Hes the best of what we have available to us right now. Not his fault the team is set up badly and has no tactical identity. Least hes out there trying and not hiding. My apologies for the essay. Todays pissed me off no end, but it wasnt this lads fault.

Neither was it Penney or Palmers. In case you isn't realise, we started with a flat back 4 then 2nd half went 4-3-3 . Yes it was dire 2nd half but why was it changed I'd be asking

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Been saying he was shybo since he arrived. There’s only Buttercup that was or is worse.

 

Anybody think Semedo would let teams stroll around us or let the Pigs do what they did last season at S6?

 

Jones is a technically better player with more passing ability. He can actually take free-kicks and corners rather than go over and stand n’ watch Bannan take them.

 

If we only want somebody to sit and break up play before giving it to someone else then Jones is far better equipped.

 

Hutch could bring his Wheelie Bin from home and it would be more effective than PussInBoots

 

 

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8 hours ago, leono said:

He didn't even make that many of his legendary 5 yard passes today:

 

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Jesus wept! 16 passes all game from your defensive midfielder. If you have a good player in that position, he will have more touches than any other player. 

 

I thought Fletcher battled hard yesterday and put a shift in but the rest were poor so don’t want to single Joey out too much. However, I won’t change my mind that he is not championship level and he’s a league 1 player. If Hutch is fit, he should be playing. 

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7 hours ago, 33 said:

He's better than Buttercup

He’s not better than Sam Hutchinson.... who coincidentally is currently fit and available for selection.

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12 minutes ago, 33 said:

Been saying he was shybo since he arrived. There’s only Buttercup that was or is worse.

 

Anybody think Semedo would let teams stroll around us or let the Pigs do what they did last season at S6?

 

Jones is a technically better player with more passing ability. He can actually take free-kicks and corners rather than go over and stand n’ watch Bannan take them.

 

If we only want somebody to sit and break up play before giving it to someone else then Jones is far better equipped.

 

Hutch could bring his Wheelie Bin from home and it would be more effective than PussInBoots

 

 

I always rated Jones yet he got berated mercilessly on here when he played.

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