WhiteOwl91 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Jos confirms that Westwood, Hutchinson, Jones, Abdi and Boyd not being included for footballing reasons and nothing else. No fall out, no contractual issues, nothing from the chairman. He also confirmed injuries now only affecting about 3 players. So for me, he now gets judged on these decisions, results and performances, pure and simple. No more hiding behind the rumours of 'what if Westwood/Hutchinson's had a huge fall out, spat his dummy out etc' And on that basis, to not select any of the above players on that bench vs Birmingham, for footballing reasons, in my opinion is a disgrace and he's on borrowed time. Bring on the 9th. UTO. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I agree with Abdi been left out completely as he's just a waste of space but the others should always be in the squad, I'd actually start Westwood, Boyd & Hutch tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe Hesley OWL Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, gypsyowl said: I agree with Abdi been left out completely as he's just a waste of space but the others should always be in the squad, I'd actually start Westwood, Boyd & Hutch tomorrow Maybe not boyd... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 It won’t happen but I’d love one or two of the excluded players to come out with their opinion. Or indeed their version of the truth 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Some of those players have hardly pulled up any trees and I understand wanting to bring youth through. But to put completely inexperienced youngsters who have barely, if ever, played a game of first team football on the bench ahead of such a wealth of experience is simply insane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 When you look at last Saturday's bench, it makes even more bizarre these players are frozen out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Absolutely Had enough of this ‘hands tied behind his back’ stuff now He’s labelled 3 ongoing injuries at the club, that’s what you’ll get at most clubs So the 3 is hooper, Winnall, FF? What about Matias? That would be 4, 5 if you include Lee Edited November 2, 2018 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Our bench has been so weak lately. It makes it even more frustrating for me that Jos is being so stubborn he won’t let these players back in to the squad. Cutting his nose off to spite his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, FreshOwl said: Absolutely Had enough of this ‘hands tied behind his back’ stuff now He’s labelled 3 ongoing injuries at the club, that’s what you’ll get at most clubs So the 3 us hooper, Winnall, FF? What about Matias? That would be 4, 5 if you include Lee Yep if they are the only injuries then no excuses. We have a good if unbalanced squad and there is no reason why we shouldn't be winning more than we are losing. We should be comfortably top half with the players available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 They aren't a part of his long term plans. Fair play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Its quite clear promotion isnt the aim this season. Nor is reaching the play offs. Unless Chansiri is happy seeing first team players snubbed so 18 year olds can sit on the bench. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On the plus side, despite the last 3 games. It's nice to see us compete in the 2nd half, rather than being unable to get out of our own half, which happened regular last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 So in the West Brom game for example he thought bringing Kirby on would be a better option than bringing Hutch on to help defend our lead? And he thinks having Wildsmith on the bench who has recently made a few errors in U23 matches is a better option than the proven international goal keeper we have on our books? Those 2 examples alone in my opinion show that either Luhukay is playing us all for fools expecting us to believe such rubbish or he genuinely hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing with his team selections. Either way it ain’t great. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 We all knew what the score is but whatever the club says some people won’t accept it. Therefore the only reason why people keep dragging it up is to try and antagonise people and you have to ask why that is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, bigash_swfc said: On the plus side, despite the last 3 games. It's nice to see us compete in the 2nd half, rather than being unable to get out of our own half, which happened regular last year I love paying my £30+per match for the team to be bothered about competing in the 2nd half. Really warms my heart! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, pgmetcalf said: We all knew what the score is but whatever the club says some people won’t accept it. Therefore the only reason why people keep dragging it up is to try and antagonise people and you have to ask why that is People keep saying this “ we all know what’s going on” But we don’t do we? No one has the foggiest Edited November 2, 2018 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, pgmetcalf said: We all knew what the score is but whatever the club says some people won’t accept it. Therefore the only reason why people keep dragging it up is to try and antagonise people and you have to ask why that is Yeah because having players from the under 18s like Isaac Rice and Liam Shaw is definitely better than Sam Hutchinson. I'm not entertaining any conspiracies but those sorts of decisions alone aren't surprising when you're talking about the 2nd worst defence in the league and 16 games with no clean sheet. Cheers Jos for that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Been a supporter and season ticket holder since 1965 and the way this club is being run at the moment is a complete joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: People keep saying this “ we all know what’s going on” But we don’t do we? No one has the foggiest Well he's come out and said it's definitely nothing to do with contracts. Definitely nothing to do with the Chairman telling who he can pick and that is about wanting players who are available to train every session and be available for every match. We might not agree. But I don't think he can be much clearer on it. He wants young, fit, healthy players who are physically and mentally available to train every week and play every week. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: I love paying my £30+per match for the team to be bothered about competing in the 2nd half. Really warms my heart! They're able to now pal. With Rhodes, Wallace, Loovens, Pudil, Westwood, Boyd, Jones etc......we might aswell not have turned up last season. Point being. We needed this transition 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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