hawksmore Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 When Chansiri came to S6 we were constantly told how we were part of the family that is Sheffield Wednesday and reminded at any opportunity that we don't sell family to other clubs. Senior players such as Westwood, Hutch, Jones, Boyd, Abdi etc are frozen out. This is just a toxic way to manage relationships. The precedent was set with how George Hirst was treated and how Carlos was unable to comment on it, now we're getting the same with Jos but more senior players, who can do better than some of the kids being thrown in at the deep end. As each week goes by, each fans forum passes, there's more to be worried about, where are the signs of things being run better? The only saving grace is that come the end of the season along with Jones £1.3 billion per year salary, we drop a number of top earners from the wage bill, but what kind of players will we attract that would be capable of keeping us competitive in this league? The whole culture at the club needs a overhaul, starting with the man at the top. I can accept mid table mediocrity, but lies, lack of transparency and a general uneasy feeling surrounding the club is what genuinely worries me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, hawksmore said: When Chansiri came to S6 we were constantly told how we were part of the family that is Sheffield Wednesday and reminded at any opportunity that we don't sell family to other clubs. Senior players such as Westwood, Hutch, Jones, Boyd, Abdi etc are frozen out. This is just a toxic way to manage relationships. Relationships are two way streets. Are our players and their agents saintly people who do everything in the best interests of Sheffield Wednesday? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Relationships are two way streets. Are our players and their agents saintly people who do everything in the best interests of Sheffield Wednesday? I can answer this very quickly and simply NO...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, OWLERTON GHOST said: I can answer this very quickly and simply NO...... I did wonder , you see, as the O.P didn't mention about the PFA getting involved over the toxic treatment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regulator Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I do wonder how Chansiri has reflected on the outpouring of emotion in Leicester for one of his fellow countrymen. What Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha achieved there is the stuff of legend but it’s the connection and empathy with the paying customer and community that has been striking over the past few days, something that Chansiri seems to want to completely ignore. Chansiri needs to look at Leicester if he wants to know what a true footballing family looks like. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Lord Snooty said: I did wonder , you see, as the O.P didn't mention about the PFA getting involved over the toxic treatment. You've just gone and won the Internet with that post Snoot's !! With a tinsey wincey bit of assistance from myself ... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Got toxic for me when fantastic guy Roeder was trashed for Doyen (after what he'd suffered). Then blind, sick and poor get robbed of their Radio Sheffield commentaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1867Heaven Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 53 minutes ago, hawksmore said: When Chansiri came to S6 we were constantly told how we were part of the family that is Sheffield Wednesday and reminded at any opportunity that we don't sell family to other clubs. Senior players such as Westwood, Hutch, Jones, Boyd, Abdi etc are frozen out. This is just a toxic way to manage relationships. The precedent was set with how George Hirst was treated and how Carlos was unable to comment on it, now we're getting the same with Jos but more senior players, who can do better than some of the kids being thrown in at the deep end. As each week goes by, each fans forum passes, there's more to be worried about, where are the signs of things being run better? The only saving grace is that come the end of the season along with Jones £1.3 billion per year salary, we drop a number of top earners from the wage bill, but what kind of players will we attract that would be capable of keeping us competitive in this league? The whole culture at the club needs a overhaul, starting with the man at the top. I can accept mid table mediocrity, but lies, lack of transparency and a general uneasy feeling surrounding the club is what genuinely worries me now. For me this season we’re still dealing with the past mistakes, we need to give DC the chance to start afresh and that won’t come with out a decent sized sale amount of a player or 2 and next summer, mistakes have been made but I still have faith in DC, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 It's beginning to look as if the Chansiri project has run it's course tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, 1867Heaven said: For me this season we’re still dealing with the past mistakes, we need to give DC the chance to start afresh and that won’t come with out a decent sized sale amount of a player or 2 and next summer, mistakes have been made but I still have faith in DC, for now Question in my mind is Are we dealing with them? Faith in DC is running low along with patience by the looks of things. As a fan I would be willing to buy into wiping the slate clean if we were told that was the plan, everything so far under his leadership has been reactionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, BIG D said: It's beginning to look as if the Chansiri project has run it's course tbh. I think there's longer in it. Not least since I doubt there's anyone waiting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 For me , things started going wrong the minute Doyen got their foot in the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, BIG D said: It's beginning to look as if the Chansiri project has run it's course tbh. I doubt he'll be going anywhere soon, I think he'll stick around and try again with a different formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The lack of transparency is what gets me. We had the fans forum where Chansiri sent across loads of mixed messages. Jos doesn't have the best grasp of English so we listen to his press conferences and things get lost in translation. There has never been clarity on the injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: The lack of transparency is what gets me. We had the fans forum where Chansiri sent across loads of mixed messages. Jos doesn't have the best grasp of English so we listen to his press conferences and things get lost in translation. There has never been clarity on the injuries. Depends on which players, the players like Westwood, Jones and Hutchinson don't get mentioned but FF and Winnall do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: I think there's longer in it. Not least since I doubt there's anyone waiting in the wings. I agree but I can't see us recovering with DC at the helm. Far too many divisions have been created. Sad because we were so close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1867Heaven Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, Mystic Neg said: Question in my mind is Are we dealing with them? Faith in DC is running low along with patience by the looks of things. As a fan I would be willing to buy into wiping the slate clean if we were told that was the plan, everything so far under his leadership has been reactionary. Only time will tell if we’re dealing with them I suppose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: I think there's longer in it. Not least since I doubt there's anyone waiting in the wings. I suspect he is staying on sufference. Despite his initial intentions, this project has stalled. My own thoughts are he would take a small loss and clear out if he could. As I see us more like relegation candidates than play off possibles, I worry things will become unpleasant toward him after Xmas, and we will learn a lot more then. I'd love to be proved wrong. ** I've avoided the cliche words such as toxic and turgid , only after a rethink ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: You've just gone and won the Internet with that post Snoot's !! With a tinsey wincey bit of assistance from myself ... Not our fault you felt the need to explain it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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