shezzas left peg Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) Before jos came in with the previous regime Under Carlos sums us up and is one of the reasons we're in this mess.!! Sheffield wednesday - a NICE northern club. With a NICE honourable chap as owner, ,goes on about one big family. With NICE on the whole fans, few idiots, but generally good natured. With a NICE likeable manager,who's charming and says the right things (Carlos). With NICE neat tidy footballers... This was the problem for 3 years, we've just been too damn NICE!! for our own good, DC, was too nice and nieve and allowed advisors and hangers on have our pants down with transfers and contracts. Carlos signed nice, neat, tidy, very sporting footballers who weren't combative, outspoken or Fiery. Even when we the fans could see it all falling apart like a house of cards, we were too nice and still loved Carlos, wouldn't protest or openly complain (apart from on here). Thus were still left with a nieve chairman, who thinks he can just bumble along without the fans getting all upset and out on the pitch a leaderless bunch of nice guys who are good footballers, but don't have the mentality, drive or aggression to really dig in and get the job done when needed. This also means a really hard job for jos and it does make you think he's looked at the squad and thought "oh dear lord what do I do with this lot" so has turned to the kids to look for some aggression power, pace and above all passion to get stuck in and play. Edited October 24, 2018 by shezzas left peg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Nice thread Shezza.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Carlos seemed to do ok for 2 seasons with this nice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Yes. Generally speaking, we are a soft touch. Even when we are decent (2015 - 2017), I'd suggest we are quite flaky and prone to getting bullied. How often have we gone away from home and really put a team to the sword? Bullied them, outplayed them, over powered them? Hate to say it, but for whatever reason, United when they're half decent (now, under Colin), always have that edge to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 We’ve been too soft for almost all of the last 20 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, RichSheffWeds said: We’ve been too soft for almost all of the last 20 years. Exactly. Only team I can think of which was physical is Megsons side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Right. We're all agreed then. We need some shithouses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samowl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 We need Son of RedaJohnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Lord Snooty said: Right. We're all agreed then. We need some shithouses. Need them ??... we’ve already got em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Don't have to be nasty but watching Derby tonight it is about denying space, getting at the opposition and then using that pace and energy to go forward. Daft thing is the first season under Carlos we adopted the high press approach. To my utmost confusion we stopped doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: Need them ??... we’ve already got em Blimey Corky, hasn't your malady lifted yet, it's been 24 hours! Have a stiff drink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Lord Snooty said: Blimey Corky, hasn't your malady lifted yet, it's been 24 hours! Have a stiff drink! Ha ha .... just quoting the obvious and what most fans think.....have you gone back to blindly excepting the mess already?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: Ha ha .... just quoting the obvious and what most fans think.....have you gone back to blindly excepting the mess already?? I'm not blind to the mess. It's been quite apparent for about 2 years. But I'm not going to give myself high blood pressure about it when there's sweet Fanny Adams I can do about it! Slouch into a comfy chair Hugh. Have a nice cup of tea and a biscuit. Relax. After all... ....We've got to do it all again on Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, Rogers said: Carlos seemed to do ok for 2 seasons with this nice squad. That's becouse, Westwood, Wallace, loovens and Hutch almost all four he inherited I think Wallace came just after carlos... Could do the nasty or not so sporting part of the game when needed.. How many of them play for us now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Right. We're all agreed then. We need some shithouses. Yup we need a few like llera, semedo, reda that nasty little terrier mcguire in the side to compliment and make up for the matias, Nando, reach etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Lord Snooty said: I'm not blind to the mess. It's been quite apparent for about 2 years. But I'm not going to give myself high blood pressure about it when there's sweet Fanny Adams I can do about it! Slouch into a comfy chair Hugh. Have a nice cup of tea and a biscuit. Relax. After all... ....We've got to do it all again on Saturday! Won’t give me high blood pressure!!.. learnt years ago ..as a club swfc take their loyal fans for granted.....we will sell out most away allocations...still turn when we are paying highest matchday tickets in the league....and are expected to just put up with it as always ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, SiJ said: Yes. Generally speaking, we are a soft touch. Even when we are decent (2015 - 2017), I'd suggest we are quite flaky and prone to getting bullied. How often have we gone away from home and really put a team to the sword? Bullied them, outplayed them, over powered them? Hate to say it, but for whatever reason, United when they're half decent (now, under Colin), always have that edge to them. Exactly my point, even those first 2 seasons under Carlos when we played some great football, we'd go beat Newcastle, Derby or a villa, then proceed to drop points at a Barnsley, Bolton, Millwall or Burton becouse they'd get in our faces and bully us off our game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lythamowl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 OP is right...we’re just too nice OCS needs reforming ready for a week on Friday, let’s start there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: Won’t give me high blood pressure!!.. learnt years ago ..as a club swfc take their loyal fans for granted.....we will sell out most away allocations...still turn when we are paying highest matchday tickets in the league....and are expected to just put up with it as always ...... That's the way of it. Only option is to stay away. But... there's always the pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTY BOY Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, RichSheffWeds said: We’ve been too soft for almost all of the last 20 years. Very true unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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