S72 Owl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Everyone is desperate to keep a clean sheet now. We need to get it out of the way quickly. What defence would you go with for the next 10 games? (And you can’t pick Westwood) Id go... Wilsdmith Palmer Lees Hector Pudil Lees and Hector are by far our best two centre backs but from my memory haven’t played in a back four together. Pudil left back for his experience, tell him not to keep bombing on and there’s no reason why he can’t be an effective full back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowyowl61 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Probably be without Pudil anyway for the next couple at least, but Lees on current form as well, perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Kieran Westwood at centre half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4EVER Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, S72 Owl said: Everyone is desperate to keep a clean sheet now. We need to get it out of the way quickly. What defence would you go with for the next 10 games? (And you can’t pick Westwood) Id go... Wilsdmith Palmer Lees Hector Pudil Lees and Hector are by far our best two centre backs but from my memory haven’t played in a back four together. Pudil left back for his experience, tell him not to keep bombing on and there’s no reason why he can’t be an effective full back again. Sorry I think we need a Bricklayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, S72 Owl said: Everyone is desperate to keep a clean sheet now. We need to get it out of the way quickly. What defence would you go with for the next 10 games? (And you can’t pick Westwood) Id go... Wilsdmith Palmer Lees Hector Pudil Lees and Hector are by far our best two centre backs but from my memory haven’t played in a back four together. Pudil left back for his experience, tell him not to keep bombing on and there’s no reason why he can’t be an effective full back again. I’d apply to the league and ask for special dispensation to allow us to play 3 keepers in net to satisfy every one of our fans then :D winner winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, TC4EVER said: Sorry I think we need a Bricklayer. Hahahaha sorry mate got too much shiiiite out there already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefdave Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Wear your pants in bed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 A radical idea I would pick you best players for each position and play them there in the next game Best Goal Keeper - Westwood Best Right back - Palmer, Best Centre back - Hector, The other best Centre back Lees, The best Left back - Penney It is not difficult when you are struggling you look to experience, but when your experience is Fox you then don't go to that option because he is cack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robswfc Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Same back line that played well for 85 mins and very nearly kept a clean sheet vs. West Brom ................Lees.......Hector......Pudil Palmer................................................Penney and stick with it please Jos FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, TC4EVER said: Sorry I think we need a Bricklayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Wildsmith (Dawson's poor at crosses & communication) Palmer, Lees ,Hutchinson,Pudil Hector Joey Reach Bannan (i would fine him £1 everytime he come in our half for the ball) Fernando Fletcher . That would be my team if Hutch & FF was fit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, keefdave said: Wear your pants in bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 WIldsmith Dawson Westwood Palmer Hutchinson Lees Hector Thorniley Pudil Penney Fox No that's just silly - the OP said we couldn't pick Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The focus on our ineptitude changes incrementally. There has been a debate about the lack of decent fullbacks for two seasons . Penny has come along and that dims the spotlight on that problem. The debate then moves to lack of pace, particularly on the flanks... that shortage is not addressed but the debate then turns to central defenders. We let Sasso go plus the guy who’s name begins with V ( who was desperate to stay) and poor old Tom Lees is left on his own with a little help from Pudil who announces that his legs have gone. Hector comes along and improves things and Tom seems to have a new spring in his step ( despite the gaff last Friday) The focus is now on our strikers, a position where we seemed to have an embarrassment of riches. The two up front last night were , and some might say always have been, awful. Don’t need to debate the goalkeeping situation, we all know who should be between the sticks.... injuries, all clubs get them...but effective recruitment , nothing gets fixed, the focus just changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) Westwood Pudil Lees Hector Penny Palmer (wingbacks) Edited October 24, 2018 by Mardy Bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Here’s a thought. Stop giving the fizz in ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Homer said: Wildsmith (Dawson's poor at crosses & communication) Palmer, Lees ,Hutchinson,Pudil Hector Joey Reach Bannan (i would fine him £1 everytime he come in our half for the ball) Fernando Fletcher . That would be my team if Hutch & FF was fit . I agree about bannan, never seen an attacking centre mid spend so much time in their own defending half of the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike1867 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, Mardy Bum said: I agree about bannan, never seen an attacking centre mid spend so much time in their own defending half of the pitch Here's a radical thought then and unfortunately one I've started to come back to. How about Bannan gets the hook then for one game? Jos has already said, everything goes through him, the players need to spread the responsibility. I actually think he had a poor game last night and its not the first time this season. Yes on his day, he's a smashing little player, but he has his limitations. He does not contribute enough goals from midfield, I don't think he has enough assists for someone who supposedly pulls our strings. Apparently last night he had the most touches in a single game than anybody in the Championship in the last 50 years ( I exaggerate, but the commentator kept going on about it). So for somebody with so much possession, would you not expect more from it? Its all neat and tidy, but where is the threat? Where is the fear in the opposition when he gets the ball? This suicide stuff that we play around the back 4 and midfielders I think is a direct result of trying to get him in the game or him coming deep for the ball. He's inviting teams on to us. If we want to vary it up a bit, then Pelupessy and Onomah are plenty capable enough of dropping in to receive the ball, but I wouldn't make it our default out ball. We play these cutesie little balls inside, which to me, just invites teams to press us in a really bad place if we lose the ball. If Bannan isn't there, then the ball has to go forward quicker, either into feet of the strikers, or down the line. That to me makes Joao more of a threat, that makes Reach more of a threat. We also lessen the risk of fannying around with it in our own half and inviting the press. Before everybody gets their pitch forks out, there's precedence for this. It happened and was discussed in 15/16. We lost him for 3 games after Forest away and results improved but also I think we only conceded one in the next 3. We played outstandingly well against West Brom for 80 odd minutes without him. I'm not questioning his commitment or his desire to play well, far from it. I'm questioning whether he is the right type of player for this league in that position of CM. I've said it before, I think he is best utilised much further up the pitch (like a Juan Mata type role) and if he keeps dropping deep and inviting the press, I think we'll continue to have problems. I look forward to your well thought out, insightful and rational replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, spike1867 said: Here's a radical thought then and unfortunately one I've started to come back to. How about Bannan gets the hook then for one game? Jos has already said, everything goes through him, the players need to spread the responsibility. I actually think he had a poor game last night and its not the first time this season. Yes on his day, he's a smashing little player, but he has his limitations. He does not contribute enough goals from midfield, I don't think he has enough assists for someone who supposedly pulls our strings. Apparently last night he had the most touches in a single game than anybody in the Championship in the last 50 years ( I exaggerate, but the commentator kept going on about it). So for somebody with so much possession, would you not expect more from it? Its all neat and tidy, but where is the threat? Where is the fear in the opposition when he gets the ball? This suicide stuff that we play around the back 4 and midfielders I think is a direct result of trying to get him in the game or him coming deep for the ball. He's inviting teams on to us. If we want to vary it up a bit, then Pelupessy and Onomah are plenty capable enough of dropping in to receive the ball, but I wouldn't make it our default out ball. We play these cutesie little balls inside, which to me, just invites teams to press us in a really bad place if we lose the ball. If Bannan isn't there, then the ball has to go forward quicker, either into feet of the strikers, or down the line. That to me makes Joao more of a threat, that makes Reach more of a threat. We also lessen the risk of fannying around with it in our own half and inviting the press. Before everybody gets their pitch forks out, there's precedence for this. It happened and was discussed in 15/16. We lost him for 3 games after Forest away and results improved but also I think we only conceded one in the next 3. We played outstandingly well against West Brom for 80 odd minutes without him. I'm not questioning his commitment or his desire to play well, far from it. I'm questioning whether he is the right type of player for this league in that position of CM. I've said it before, I think he is best utilised much further up the pitch (like a Juan Mata type role) and if he keeps dropping deep and inviting the press, I think we'll continue to have problems. I look forward to your well thought out, insightful and rational replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Doesn't really matter who you play if you persist with the same inept tactics of roll the ball to defenders, pass it square and back a few times, lose ball and put ourselves under pressure. Rinse and repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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