MrTacoSWFC Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 So the only team without a clean sheet... January is coming, plenty of interest in Reach I'd assume... so do we sell and try and sort out the defence, would we have more chance of winning with a clean tighter defence than having reach? He's probably our most valuable asset at the moment but how else can we try and sort the defensive issue if we haven't 3 beans to rub together.... Who could we get with 10-12 million? Would be useless without Reach, or do we have enough options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, MrTacoSWFC said: So the only team without a clean sheet... January is coming, plenty of interest in Reach I'd assume... so do we sell and try and sort out the defence, would we have more chance of winning with a clean tighter defence than having reach? He's probably our most valuable asset at the moment but how else can we try and sort the defensive issue if we haven't 3 beans to rub together.... Who could we get with 10-12 million? Would be useless without Reach, or do we have enough options? Nobody because the £10-£12m will be used to bridge the predicted FFP/P&S shortfall thus avoiding a further embargo, fines & or points deductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReginaldD Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, mogbad said: Nobody because the £10-£12m will be used to bridge the predicted FFP/P&S shortfall thus avoiding a further embargo, fines & or points deductions. You beat me to it, saw thread title and thought exactly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 for me hutch is the answer either in the back 3 or in front protecting them ...we miss him big time ,he may be a crock but whenever he's fit he should play . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Knowing us, we'd sell Reach and give that flipping concrete legged deadweight up front another contract. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, torryowl said: for me hutch is the answer either in the back 3 or in front protecting them ...we miss him big time ,he may be a crock but whenever he's fit he should play . At the start of the season of have said no, build the team without him. Now though, here we are in late October with a third of the season gone... bottom half no clean sheets Devoid of confidence No likely incomings in January Yes, if he's available play him. We have nothing to lose by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, MrTacoSWFC said: So the only team without a clean sheet... January is coming, plenty of interest in Reach I'd assume... so do we sell and try and sort out the defence, would we have more chance of winning with a clean tighter defence than having reach? He's probably our most valuable asset at the moment but how else can we try and sort the defensive issue if we haven't 3 beans to rub together.... Who could we get with 10-12 million? Would be useless without Reach, or do we have enough options? We just need to play a traditional back 4, Westwood in goal to shout and organise, and keep a settled side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 yes i would sell reach. Makes sense given our predicament. Hopefully by then we have a few players back fit to cover the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlmanc Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Beholder said: yes i would sell reach. Makes sense given our predicament. Hopefully by then we have a few players back fit to cover the loss. Agreed. However I think in the current climate we should be looking for more than £15m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) If we could guarantee staying up this year and avoiding FFP I would sell Reach and Forestieri in January. We'd probably get approaching 15-20m for the pair. Trouble is we can't guarantee staying up. It would hurt and it will particularly hurt those who have been sold on the 'you have to pay top dollar to keep quality players at the club and get promoted' from Chansiri. We have paid top dollar and probably have little choice but to lose most of the quality. We need cheaper tickets, a full house, a young team and a real bunker mentality to start again next season, whilst avoiding FFP. Trouble is none of those things really encourage the other. Difficult times ahead but expected after Chansiri went off like a blind bull in a China shop for 2 years and now faces a hefty repair job. Edited October 24, 2018 by Mystic Neg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc.4.ever Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Maybe if we sold Reach, we would be able to afford to pay Westwood to play net Problem is, he is our least injury prone player in a team full of crocks, for this reason we must keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 hours ago, torryowl said: for me hutch is the answer either in the back 3 or in front protecting them ...we miss him big time ,he may be a crock but whenever he's fit he should play . Lol. Hutch is the answer? What makes you think he's physically equipped to accept your call?? Come ON, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Beholder said: yes i would sell reach. Makes sense given our predicament. Hopefully by then we have a few players back fit to cover the loss. Because he'll fetch 2.5 Van Akens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Sell Reach yes, but will only sort FFP. We need £15 mill min. just for FFP , before 30 May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlstastic Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I think we'd need to sell several players to get any where near £15m. Our predicament is hardly a secret. Any buyers know we are in a desperate situation so why offer top dollar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Sell Reach and I'm still not sure we'll be able to strengthen the back line with anything other than freebies and hungry youngsters. It's a long haul ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Or I this is out there so bare with me. Don't sell our best current playing and instead play the best players you have for the defensive positions So Westwood Palmer/Hector/Lees/Penney Try this back 5 for the next 5 games and I bet we get a least a few clean sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 13 hours ago, MrTacoSWFC said: So the only team without a clean sheet... January is coming, plenty of interest in Reach I'd assume... so do we sell and try and sort out the defence, would we have more chance of winning with a clean tighter defence than having reach? He's probably our most valuable asset at the moment but how else can we try and sort the defensive issue if we haven't 3 beans to rub together.... Who could we get with 10-12 million? Would be useless without Reach, or do we have enough options? No - we have adequate defenders - it's just that the manager changes the back four ad-hoc and they can't get any consistency. Lees and Hector at centre back and any combination of pudil, palmer and thorniley is adequate enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 No brainer to sell Reach in January if a big bid comes in. If we can get an up front fee to sort FFP out and we can offload just about everyone who’s out of contract bar Penney in the summer, then we can start to rebuild for the future. Hopefully, we can put past mistakes behind us as this is one almighty mess with our current injuries and isolation of senior players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, ka58 said: No - we have adequate defenders - it's just that the manager changes the back four ad-hoc and they can't get any consistency. Lees and Hector at centre back and any combination of pudil, palmer and thorniley is adequate enough. To be fair most of the back line that beat Bristol played against Middlesbrough. It's hard to legislate for two absolute brain-melt moments of madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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