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1 minute ago, jonesy87shef said:

 

If you have injuries you’re much more likely to get injured again coming back from injuries. Especially doing an ACL. 

 

Please stop banging the Carlos isn’t to blame drum. If you don’t take fitness training and conditioning seriously, rush players back early then you get a load of injures. Those players in the future will be much more prone to injuries for the rest of their career due to poor training. 

 

I do worry and maybe somethings can improve, but he really has helped ruin a few players. Not Winnall of course. He was at Derby for months before suffering one of the most painful horrible injuries you can. I’d rather break things and do my cruciate ligament.

It runs deeper than that, we have suffered plenty of injuries at development level as well This is an area Carlos wasn’t really involved with, and according to some, had very little interest in. 

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I think some of this is down to the type of player we've assembled over the last four years - on the whole they're not the most mobile or agile.

 

Other than Nuihu and Reach, I can't think of any player who hasn't been injured at some point - most get injured or a rolling 4/6 month basis.

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3 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

It runs deeper than that, we have suffered plenty of injuries at development level as well This is an area Carlos wasn’t really involved with, and according to some, had very little interest in. 

 

If this is the case you make a better point but I’m unaware personally of development player injuries and the players getting them persistently. Ruling out impact injures of course because they are unavoidable. 

 

If you can give me some sort of breakdown that would be appreciated.

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8 minutes ago, jonesy87shef said:

 

I do wonder where professionals get the graft from. I’ve had shin bone, hamstring I believe and hip bone done for my surgeries. No idea where they’d go next if I ever decided to play again.

 

Just read this about grafts, I wonder if they had to dig up the donor :ph34r:

 

The patellar ligament, tibialis anterior tendon, or Achilles tendon may be recovered from a cadaver and used in ACL reconstruction. 

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Just now, Hookowl said:

 

Just read this about grafts, I wonder if they had to dig up the donor :ph34r:

 

The patellar ligament, tibialis anterior tendon, or Achilles tendon may be recovered from a cadaver and used in ACL reconstruction. 

 

Yes I could have mentioned that. After losing a lot of weight I can know be considered for additional surgery. Done my ACL 3 times. 4 surgeries in all. I have no cartridge now as a result and as a of course that come with lots of pain and jarring.  

 

They can take it from a Cadaver and insert it in your knee. Allegedly back to normal. Be a bit strange but if I can get it I wouldn’t say no. I believe it’s quite a specialist surgery.

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1 minute ago, jonesy87shef said:

 

Yes I could have mentioned that. After losing a lot of weight I can know be considered for additional surgery. Done my ACL 3 times. 4 surgeries in all. I have no cartridge now as a result and as a of course that come with lots of pain and jarring.  

 

They can take it from a Cadaver and insert it in your knee. Allegedly back to normal. Be a bit strange but if I can get it I wouldn’t say no. I believe it’s quite a specialist surgery.

 

Hope you get sorted mate.

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2 minutes ago, jonesy87shef said:

 

If this is the case you make a better point but I’m unaware personally of development player injuries and the players getting them persistently. Ruling out impact injures of course because they are unavoidable. 

 

If you can give me some sort of breakdown that would be appreciated.

Off the top of my head, there have been injuries to Neilsen, Williams, West, Clarke, Clare, Lee, Murphy, Lonchar and Preston. Then there was the young French lad who had horrendous problems. Obviously, I’m not sure how many of these were impact injuries, but then again, I don’t know to what extent some of our first team woes, have initially been due to an impact injury.

Looking at the picture as a whole, that’s far too many injuries, suggesting there has to be a common factor behind this

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2 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

Off the top of my head, there have been injuries to Neilsen, Williams, West, Clarke, Clare, Lee, Murphy, Lonchar and Preston. Then there was the young French lad who had horrendous problems. Obviously, I’m not sure how many of these were impact injuries, but then again, I don’t know to what extent some of our first team woes, have initially been due to an impact injury.

Looking at the picture as a whole, that’s far too many injuries, suggesting there has to be a common factor behind this

 

Franck Betra. Highly rated but had a nasty injury. Didn't Stobbs miss a year with injury too?

 

Suggests that the problem is within the club. Either the training ground surface or the medical staff. Or a culture of rushing players back and not taking great care with rehabilitation. 

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2 minutes ago, gurujuan said:

Off the top of my head, there have been injuries to Neilsen, Williams, West, Clarke, Clare, Lee, Murphy, Lonchar and Preston. Then there was the young French lad who had horrendous problems. Obviously, I’m not sure how many of these were impact injuries, but then again, I don’t know to what extent some of our first team woes, have initially been due to an impact injury.

Looking at the picture as a whole, that’s far too many injuries, suggesting there has to be a common factor behind this

 

Thank you for replying. I suppose the problem with that is it could just be a couple of weeks out etc. When it’s continuous and extended it’s a worry. If it’s a twisted anckle here and there it’s not a problem. When hamstrings are going and other muscles over and over then big questions need asking.

 

I believe Frank Betra was his name? Not 100%. Think he did his knee. Was meant to be a decent talent if I remember correctly.

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Don't see that big an issue with Winnall .. just coming back from a massive injury, bound to have some set backs or tweak some muscles etc ... only adds a few weeks more to his recovery. Rather him right then come in to the squad and play not fully fit before breaking down with a bigger injury!

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20 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said:

 

Franck Betra. Highly rated but had a nasty injury. Didn't Stobbs miss a year with injury too?

 

Suggests that the problem is within the club. Either the training ground surface or the medical staff. Or a culture of rushing players back and not taking great care with rehabilitation. 

 

Definitely seems to me that this has all happened since the switch to Desso, weirdly enough. Or am I just misremembering? Could be.

 

Plus I know that’s unlikely to be a major factor for the younger lads, not to mention a bizarre number of our injuries seem to happen outside of match days - but still, in my mind it does seem like the Desso was one of the first big changes of the DC era, and since then we’ve barely been able to field our ideal XI once in four years. Mental.

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