LiamAP22D Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Lost a fair few friends to suicide over the last few years, it's good that we're finally getting the massage home that... #itsoktosay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 18 hours ago, keepitsteel89 said: It was the Chris Kirkland documentary not the guys on here... people are caught up in their own worlds... I think if they looking into issues like poverty it would help them not dwell on many of the aspects that are causing their depression in the first place Wow, where did they find you then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Junglejay said: Serious respect to you for being open about this. I'll be honest and admit that in the past, I'd always had the thought that it was a cowards way out but this all changed when my Wife's step brother killed himself a few years back. He'd had some issues in the past, but on the face of it, he appeared to be getting on well, a super intelligent young man in his 20's. My Mother in Law met him for lunch the day before he died all appeared normal, he was certainly on the up from his lowest point a few years prior. Living 4 hours away, we didn't see him that often, but the range of emotions we went through when we found out the news ranged from utter shock, disbelief, guilt and anger. Seeing the fall out and what it did to his Dad, Mum and Brother was really hard to take and this was where the anger started to come in, purely just thinking about the damage caused that still runs deep within the Family Today. At the Funeral I said to my Wife that if only he could have seen the number of people who turned up to pay their respects, perhaps he'd have realised he was worth more than he ever thought - stupid thing to say I know. The anger didn't last very long and I soon started to realise just what he must have been going through thinking this was his only option and that he was doing everyone a favour. I can't even begin to imagine the chain of thought but i's quite clear that someone who is willing to do this has a serious illness, so the last thing they're ever thinking about is the impact it has on the rest of the world once they're gone. Excellent post JJ , that’s what depression does though , makes you actually think you are doing everyone a favour by ending your life , makes you feel worthless and unloved , There’s absolutely nothing that you can like , it makes you feel you can’t face anything even day to day normal things . Why does it do that ? , it is a very powerful illness and should never ever be undermined . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Excellent thread everyone. It’s ok to not be ok. I can understand why people think the “count your blessings” approach should work with people suffering depression... however it makes it worse as it highlights the shocking state of the world. Best thing to do is talk and if you don’t have anyone to talk to, post on here, in the dressing room or wherever. Loads of people are willing to listen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 ....respect to Jason McAteer by the way... good work lad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Bleeder said: ....respect to Jason McAteer by the way... good work lad! Yes he was brilliant in it. Both relaying his own experiences and the way he was with the Father of the bloke who took his own life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys_12th_Pint Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just watched part of this programme and the Chris Kirkland interview. Did not realise he was in such a dark place at Hillsborough. Some of what he said resonated with me and how I have felt over a period of time to a lesser extent. Some great insightful posts on here as well as courageous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Yeah I felt really bad for Chris and what he went through when he was with us, to the point where his suffering caused him to lose focus and make some mistakes. I hope he knows we Wednesday fans have nothing but praise for him and highly rate him for his time with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 It just shows how far we have come and how far we still need to go in understanding and addressing mental health issues. Like other scourges of modern life such as racism and sexism, the education process is still underway and it is a welcome openness in discussing such matters that we all learn and react accordingly. My story also includes the intervention of a terrific GP and cognitive therapy. I needed a quick resolution and was lucky that I got this. Even now, I have to sometimes manage the situation but, as time goes on, the episodes are lesser and fewer and the hardest bit to me was admitting that there is a problem in the first place. I was so intrigued over the treatment, I went on to get a qualification in another field of psychology, although I am not up to the standard required to become a clinician. So, for the lucky people who have never had to experience mental health issues, please understand that these are very real illnesses and please also understand that there is rarely a response to the statement "Snap out of it" or rarely an a answer to the question "What is it that is making you depressed?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibKev Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I struggle day in and day out, often cry, want to run away.. but have stopped hurting myself and know being with the right people stops me doing silly things... Its nice to see a person brave enough to put them out there when social media can be cruel Good luck Chris and everyone who needs that help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike1867 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 As I alluded to in a post earlier on in the thread... If you've fallen into that hole and feel trapped, then reach out. Plenty of us will jump in the hole with you. Because we know the way out... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Back in he 70’s I had a mate who was a draftsman working on Rolls Royce aero engines, he was diagnosed with depression and was incarcerated in Middlewood Hostpital. He attempted suicide by throwing himself out of a top floor hospital window, he failed, and although badly injured in his attempt managed to get out and tried to get a Sheffield bus to do the job, however the driver stopped the bus in time, a lorry managed to do the job a few weeks later. I ended up working with his sister circa 35 years later, neither of us had been aware of the others existence, she was over the moon that there was someone other than her who remembered him, his name was Terry Fletcher and came from Woodbourne Road, Attercliffe. RIP pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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