HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Chansiri has already stated if we don’t get promoted this year, we’re in the brown stuff The EFL lifted the embargo long enough for us to resign Bannan and bring in 2 loanees Is that it for now, no more business allowed? Does our situation rely on us bringing in a big fee in January, and then the EFL will look at our situation again before we can conduct any more business We haven’t yet offered Matt Penny a new contract, this tells me we’re not allowed to at the moment, what other reason could there be? Thoughts? Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I think Jos is right. Contract negotiations are a distraction and you want Penney to be focused solely on the matches he has to play. The international break is a time when it can be done. I don't know about embargo. If we don't sign Penney during the international break it will be suspicious. As for January, most likely it will need outbound before inbound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I believe the general consensus is that we need to somehow raise about 15 million this season to alleviate FFP. As the high earners are unlikely to leave until next summer this in reality means one or two sales of our best players in January. I suspect that if Reach continues with his form, his sale may be the answer to our problems in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Would imagine the stumbling block with Penney maybe the wages. Him and his agent may feel his recent performances warrant him being in the 15-20 grand bracket wages wise. But do we and can we afford to offer him that contact at the moment considering he is probably only on about 2 or 3 grand at the moment if that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If we get rid of most of the high earners this summer that are not playing and out of contract Abdi Westwood Jones Hooper Etc Hopefully get rid of Rhodes for a fee. Then if we are still in a mess then so must half of the league!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If we have to sell one or more of our top players to remain within the limits of FFP well then it’s a disgrace and mismanagement at its worst . It won’t happen , will it ? . We have so many players who are on big wages , so it’s rumoured ,who have missed vast amounts of games but we can’t use these to ease the financial strain , take Westwood for instance what exactly is going on there !!! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 The accounts are there to see..one or two big players have to go in January.. unless I'm missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Anyone any idea when the following contract run out Westwood Jones Abdi Pudil will be out 2019 also if we can get rid of Rhodes then we will have saved a large amount on wages Not £15m but a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, dewsburyowl58 said: If we have to sell one or more of our top players to remain within the limits of FFP well then it’s a disgrace and mismanagement at its worst . It won’t happen , will it ? . We have so many players who are on big wages , so it’s rumoured ,who have missed vast amounts of games but we can’t use these to ease the financial strain , take Westwood for instance what exactly is going on there !!! . Not a disgrace at all. Well run clubs use their playing assets wisely. That means developing players and selling on at a profit to improve the squad. Lack of activity in this area has led to the current P & S problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: The accounts are there to see..one or two big players have to go in January.. unless I'm missing something? Plain as day to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Blatter said: Not a disgrace at all. Well run clubs use their playing assets wisely. That means developing players and selling on at a profit to improve the squad. Lack of activity in this area has led to the current P & S problems. Bit late for that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrs Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, Shetland Owl said: Anyone any idea when the following contract run out Westwood Jones Abdi Pudil will be out 2019 also if we can get rid of Rhodes then we will have saved a large amount on wages Not £15m but a good start Westwood, Jones & Abdi all out of contract in the summer. As are (I think) Palmer, Lee, Boyd, Hooper & Matias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 We’ve done enough to get it lifted. I can’t see the league would have lifted it based on a promise we would sell someone in January. That’s really not how it works. But if you want to keep wetting the bed until January carry on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, paulrs said: Westwood, Jones & Abdi all out of contract in the summer. As are (I think) Palmer, Lee, Boyd, Hooper & Matias. Wouldn't be surprised if all of those are released as Jos continues to reduce the squad age. Got to be in excess of £150k per week there in those 8, not far off £10m in savings straight away I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 FFP isn't the easiest thing to understand. Even player sales might not offset the losses as they may count towards next season? It's all a little bit confusing. I would expect Westwood to go in January and maybe we can terminate a contract or 2 if it helps. I dunno but it's clear we need to move some on. if that could be in Jan rather than the summer that would be for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I reckon the PL teams might be having undue influence on the EFL. Heard a rumour that Leicester City’s chairman has put forward a suggestion that we should sell Bannan and Reach in January. They might help us out if we can’t find a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Blatter said: Not a disgrace at all. Well run clubs use their playing assets wisely. That means developing players and selling on at a profit to improve the squad. Lack of activity in this area has led to the current P & S problems. the clubs been totally mismanaged there can be no doubt about that …...we developed two young players who could have fetched in good money one for nowt and another for a pittance and theres every chance that penney will be going the same way …... the contracts we give to aging players make it nigh on impossible to shift them out …I think disgraceful isn't far of the mark . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxine Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 51 minutes ago, torres said: If we get rid of most of the high earners this summer that are not playing and out of contract Abdi Westwood Jones Hooper Etc Hopefully get rid of Rhodes for a fee. Then if we are still in a mess then so must half of the league!!! I really think we need to hang onto Hooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Plonk said: We’ve done enough to get it lifted. I can’t see the league would have lifted it based on a promise we would sell someone in January. That’s really not how it works. But if you want to keep wetting the bed until January carry on. I've no idea how it works but from what I read it seems the embargo was lifted because the club put forward a financial plan to keep onside that would be acceptable to the powers that be …….ii'd doubt sending Rhodes out on loan will get the job done so it's a quite feasible that we could be having a fire sale come January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Maxine said: I really think we need to hang onto Hooper. Most natural goalscorer at the club when fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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