Guest Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Penny is another one where I cant figure out where he should be playing. Bit like Bale was at left back, slight liability position wise but great once he gets over the half way line. The winger role that he played against Leeds also wasn't his position though. He may do a Kieren Lee swap to CM eventually. Very good on the ball but may have been forced into left back from a young age due to being left footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 8 hours ago, torryowl said: penney as been good in the attacking sense but his defending needs working on ...he was missing for the 1st goal and it wasn't the first time it's happened .. I think this is one area where we shouldn’t rotate There have been plenty of positive signs from both Palmer and Penney, and they can become a good full back pairing Yes, both can make the odd mistake, but I think we have to persist with them The alternatives, Baker and Fox, for various reasons, don’t offer as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Claw Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 On 04/10/2018 at 06:10, samowl said: Cos our defence hasn't a clean sheet in em. did you go Wed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Fingers in the ears, la,la, la, I can’t hear you, time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 On 04/10/2018 at 06:10, samowl said: Cos our defence hasn't a clean sheet in em. We are but it’s also fortunate it’s only 1! I think we are lucky not to concede more if I’m honest, we are far to easy to carve open. But that’s a team issue not just defence. Not it sure how to fix it. Score more goals is ok by me this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, crookesowl said: We are but it’s also fortunate it’s only 1! I think we are lucky not to concede more if I’m honest, we are far to easy to carve open. But that’s a team issue not just defence. Not it sure how to fix it. Score more goals is ok by me this season. Yes, get on the front foot, and let our opponents worry about us. When we stand off sides, and invite them on to us, we generally concede. There are several reason’s for this, a goalkeeper who doesn’t yet have the experience to command his area, an ever changing back 4/5 and a lack of pressure on the ball further up the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 22 hours ago, Owls77 said: That was not the issue last night and although we need to strengthen that area. Penney has been superb and Palmer has stepped up to the plate this season. totally agree with that , good job too if palmer was the palmer of last season and penney hadn't kicked on then we would be in serious trouble , but far too many crosses are coming across I think that's partly to do with not having a natural left and right sided player in front of the fullbacks ,sometimes it maybe better to play 4411 depending who we are playing and who we have available , lees and hector are dreadful at bringing the ball out of defence until that improves we wont keep a clean sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmigo Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Being pedantic, we are also scoring lots of goals and not losing many games. So we aren’t starting one nil down , we are starting one all. which is just the same as starting at nil nil like all other football games ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Playing out from the back needs practice. One touch and move the ball is the way to go, all too often one of our number will take 2,3 or 4 touches. You simply can't get away with this if the opposites have a three up top playing a pressing game, this is what makes our back line look so obviously uncomfortable and .'. encourages the opposition to keep coming at us, creating increased tension. Jos has a role to play here though, if it's not working against a pressing front three then switch it off and in doing so don't dwell on the ball for an age. Play it forward quickly especially from the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) La la la la la. I can’t hear you. Even though you are right OP. As Nat King Cole sang “Unsustainable, that’s what you are”. Edited October 5, 2018 by theowlsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, handworth52 said: totally agree with that , good job too if palmer was the palmer of last season and penney hadn't kicked on then we would be in serious trouble , but far too many crosses are coming across I think that's partly to do with not having a natural left and right sided player in front of the fullbacks ,sometimes it maybe better to play 4411 depending who we are playing and who we have available , lees and hector are dreadful at bringing the ball out of defence until that improves we wont keep a clean sheet. Didn't think Hector was too bad bringing the ball out on Wednesday night although his accuracy with passes needs to improve. Agree about Lees though, two or three times he had yards of space in front of him and wouldn't go forward just hesitated until he was closed down. Then it was either a rushed sideways pass or back to Dawson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: Yes, get on the front foot, and let our opponents wo I agree rry about us. When we stand off sides, and invite them on to us, we generally concede. There are several reason’s for this, a goalkeeper who doesn’t yet have the experience to command his area, an ever changing back 4/5 and a lack of pressure on the ball further up the field Agree in the main. But the West Brom goals... The first comes from our keeper going long instead of rolling it out and us not having the presence up front to hold it. The second is our high pressure attack breaking down and leaving us with 5 men the wrong side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samowl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 5 hours ago, The Claw said: did you go Wed What's that got to do with price of eggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Claw Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, samowl said: What's that got to do with price of eggs we were 2 nil up not 1 nil down - der! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Hookowl said: Didn't think Hector was too bad bringing the ball out on Wednesday night although his accuracy with passes needs to improve. Agree about Lees though, two or three times he had yards of space in front of him and wouldn't go forward just hesitated until he was closed down. Then it was either a rushed sideways pass or back to Dawson. seriously m8 he was dreadful(hector) bringing the ball out on weds don't know how you missed it ,at least 3-4 times he aimlessly gave the ball away ,he needs to do better for us to prosper with 3 centre halves . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: Agree in the main. But the West Brom goals... The first comes from our keeper going long instead of rolling it out and us not having the presence up front to hold it. The second is our high pressure attack breaking down and leaving us with 5 men the wrong side of the ball. and the other five surrounding the man with the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, gurujuan said: and the other five surrounding the man with the ball There's one other thing with that second goal. I think in our disappointment there's been zero credit given to their lad. Terrific driving run from a nothing ball and lovely footwork to engineer himself a shooting opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samowl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 hours ago, The Claw said: we were 2 nil up not 1 nil down - der! And if we'd have kept a clean sheet. We'd have won. Der Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: There's one other thing with that second goal. I think in our disappointment there's been zero credit given to their lad. Terrific driving run from a nothing ball and lovely footwork to engineer himself a shooting opportunity. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Owl Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 8 hours ago, mcmigo said: Being pedantic, we are also scoring lots of goals and not losing many games. So we aren’t starting one nil down , we are starting one all. which is just the same as starting at nil nil like all other football games ever have. Yes, that's a valid point - the only League game where we didn't score was Brentford away. So if we can start keeping a few clean sheets, we should start motoring up the table. On the other hand if the goals scored starts to dry up, the opposite is likely ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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